sugoinufc Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Would personally go for something like this: Darlow Yedlin Lascelles Clark Dummett Shelvey Merino Ritchie Atsu Murphy Perez Gayle for Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Its off field stories that are the focus for us. Think your ownership is bad! The back and forth of arguments between the old owners and the trust is taking the main stage. Briefly as possible, the old board members who 10 or so years ago helped save the club and were the driving force in our rise wanted to sell out because they cold not afford the riding costs and keep up with the wage demands. Enter Americans#1, the board members wanted to sell controlling shares to this consortium, the trust wanted to do due dilligence and found they were more hedge fund investors, looking for profit and blocked the sale. Enter Americans#2, the board learned from previous experience and kept the trust in the dark, a Chinese consortium came in and wanted to invest, then moths after the board had already signed agreements to Americans#2 the trust are informed, the trust want to look at both offers to see which benefited the club best but find that the board had blind-sided them and they sold to the Americans for a nice large payout. Yes, Americans#2 are a hedge fund looking for profit, they have invested no money and low and behold, even after the big sale of Siggy on the last day of the window, we are being told there is no money to buy players this window!! We sold our main goals from last season and replaced them with two loans, neither really worked out and an ex-player who has been injured for most of the time over the last few years and funnily enough has not been able to put a run of games for us. We're in a mess and unfortunately, unlike Newcastle, we are not big enough to survive a relegation and come straight back up, with the current owners who probably are looking only to profit from the sale of any decent players we have left, we will fall back to where we came from, or maybe lower. Those directors who were heroes a few years back are hated now by the majority of fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Groo, what team you likely to field? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Why are so many football club owners so fucking shite? I know it probably only really concerns finances but that fit and proper persons test is patently useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 i'd say a must not lose game,if like brighton it's not going to plan we must still get a point stay behind them, loads more ups n downs yet, that said and a win here just could put us on the road to safety, so yes big game and if we win i'm confident we'll stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Why are so many football club owners so f***ing s****? I know it probably only really concerns finances but that fit and proper persons test is patently useless. I think the Swansea board looked at the cost of keep going and the money they could get back and thought fuck it, let’s make some money and took the best offer. Sadly it shat on the fans. SJH did similar when he floated us, without shitting on the fans of course. His son and FS on the other hand... This match is a must win for me and if we were to win well, it could send a signal to our rivals and help heap more pressure on them. I fear a draw or a 1-0 win to Swansea for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Groo, what team you likely to field? It's hard to tell with the new manager, he's still finding his team. Hope he has more luck in finding them than Clement did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Its off field stories that are the focus for us. Think your ownership is bad! The back and forth of arguments between the old owners and the trust is taking the main stage. Briefly as possible, the old board members who 10 or so years ago helped save the club and were the driving force in our rise wanted to sell out because they cold not afford the riding costs and keep up with the wage demands. Enter Americans#1, the board members wanted to sell controlling shares to this consortium, the trust wanted to do due dilligence and found they were more hedge fund investors, looking for profit and blocked the sale. Enter Americans#2, the board learned from previous experience and kept the trust in the dark, a Chinese consortium came in and wanted to invest, then moths after the board had already signed agreements to Americans#2 the trust are informed, the trust want to look at both offers to see which benefited the club best but find that the board had blind-sided them and they sold to the Americans for a nice large payout. Yes, Americans#2 are a hedge fund looking for profit, they have invested no money and low and behold, even after the big sale of Siggy on the last day of the window, we are being told there is no money to buy players this window!! We sold our main goals from last season and replaced them with two loans, neither really worked out and an ex-player who has been injured for most of the time over the last few years and funnily enough has not been able to put a run of games for us. We're in a mess and unfortunately, unlike Newcastle, we are not big enough to survive a relegation and come straight back up, with the current owners who probably are looking only to profit from the sale of any decent players we have left, we will fall back to where we came from, or maybe lower. Those directors who were heroes a few years back are hated now by the majority of fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Aye, welcome to the last 10 years of Ashley, Groo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sorry like but we need to start winning home games. And we need to beat the teams around us as much as anyone. And the teams we absolutely don't want picking up any points are the likes of Swansea. It's not insta-relegation if we only get a point (like I said: 8 from WHU/BHA/STO/SWA is an acceptable return), but it would be a pretty dismal result all things considered. Agree. Looking at the minimal difference in points between 3rd bottom and 10th we need to be winning games at home against teams around and below us (and above us FFS). This one in particular is a must win game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Swansea are appealing Fer's sending off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Its off field stories that are the focus for us. Think your ownership is bad! The back and forth of arguments between the old owners and the trust is taking the main stage. Briefly as possible, the old board members who 10 or so years ago helped save the club and were the driving force in our rise wanted to sell out because they cold not afford the riding costs and keep up with the wage demands. Enter Americans#1, the board members wanted to sell controlling shares to this consortium, the trust wanted to do due dilligence and found they were more hedge fund investors, looking for profit and blocked the sale. Enter Americans#2, the board learned from previous experience and kept the trust in the dark, a Chinese consortium came in and wanted to invest, then moths after the board had already signed agreements to Americans#2 the trust are informed, the trust want to look at both offers to see which benefited the club best but find that the board had blind-sided them and they sold to the Americans for a nice large payout. Yes, Americans#2 are a hedge fund looking for profit, they have invested no money and low and behold, even after the big sale of Siggy on the last day of the window, we are being told there is no money to buy players this window!! We sold our main goals from last season and replaced them with two loans, neither really worked out and an ex-player who has been injured for most of the time over the last few years and funnily enough has not been able to put a run of games for us. We're in a mess and unfortunately, unlike Newcastle, we are not big enough to survive a relegation and come straight back up, with the current owners who probably are looking only to profit from the sale of any decent players we have left, we will fall back to where we came from, or maybe lower. Those directors who were heroes a few years back are hated now by the majority of fans. You'd have thought investment firms like this would do their homework on how Football works... They've paid £110m for a 60% share of the club, and they seem to believe they can make a profit by selling players and doing nothing to stop relegation. But of the £97m revenue 82% is from Premier League TV money and sponsorship/gate receipts would also drop from relegation. Its reasonable to assume that income would drop to about 10% of its current level after a couple of years in the Football league. The clubs value would drop similarly. They just aren't going to make a profit by leeching from the club as it drops into the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sorry like but we need to start winning home games. And we need to beat the teams around us as much as anyone. And the teams we absolutely don't want picking up any points are the likes of Swansea. It's not insta-relegation if we only get a point (like I said: 8 from WHU/BHA/STO/SWA is an acceptable return), but it would be a pretty dismal result all things considered. Agree. Looking at the minimal difference in points between 3rd bottom and 10th we need to be winning games at home against teams around and below us (and above us FFS). This one in particular is a must win game. This is the issue I'm not being funny but we already beat or go unbeaten to "the teams around us". Our problem is based solely on not beating / drawing with teams from 12th upward. We never pull off an unexpected scalp like West Ham did at Chelsea or even get draws against teams like Everton and Leicester etc. That's why we cannot pull away. The only team below us that took the 3 points was Bournemouth, and that was literally a defeat in the last 5 mins by a single goal to nil. Obviously beating Swansea would put us in a decent position, as doing the double over them, West Ham and Stoke would be huge. We also still have to play Soton, Bournemouth, Palace and West Brom again and i'd fancy us to get atleast 2 wins regardless if they are home or away. Potentially adding Palace to the double list, and the chance to beat Soton and Brom means 4 points from both over the season. Things are tight but if we can achieve what we've already done and add a shock win or couple of draws against the big teams, it'll be looking rosey IMO. Well for a newly promoted team atleast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Kinda dreading this. I know our home form is the same as the away form but we're usually dreadful at home in games we should be winning. Hopefully they don't play like they did against Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Wouldn't mind a very similar team that we put out against Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Leroy Fer is now available to play in this after red card rescinded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 fer fucks sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 fer fucks sake Don't you mean fer ferks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 We will put the sword to these, I think another 3-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 They've apparently picked up since the manager change, beat Watford, and played well against Spurs according to a few of there fans, and given how Sheff Wed beat us both times last season, I feel it might be a tough game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 fer fucks sake Didn't see that coming. Leroy Fer just been sent off for Swansea. Misses our game. *awaits joeyt pun* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Buzzing to get Most Predictable Poster forum award Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'm joining a Last Man Standing competition that's starting this week at work. Newcastle are my first pick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 fer fucks sake Didn't see that coming. Leroy Fer just been sent off for Swansea. Misses our game. *awaits joeyt pun* Fer play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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