Martin Dúbravka

[Ronson333]

4 hours ago, mattypnufc said:

If Manure are having a clear out, I’d take Onana in a heartbeat. Think he’d be quality with a decent team in front of him. 

He struggles against corners 😀

[Rod]

3 minutes ago, Aiston said:

 

This seasons Pope?

Doubt it.

He's still a great goalkeeper.

[mattypnufc]

I mean Diogo Costa is the ultimate goal but that’ll not happen without us finding 50m down the back of a PSR laden sofa. 

[ChrisMcQuillan]

The difference his distribution makes is phenomenal. 
 

I’d be playing him in goal every week, if I knew we weren’t gonna be facing many shots.

[Menace]

He is living proof we need a new keeper with distribution.

[wormy]

1 minute ago, Menace said:

He is living proof we need a new keeper with distribution.

 

It feels weird to say as I still love Pope and have maintained he's the least of our problems, but this recent run has turned me.

 

Pope's still better at pretty much everything else, but I do wonder if we'd have managed this run and the dominant performances with his distrubution, or lack thereof.

 

Interested to see what Howe does when Pope is fit, like. Dubs surely has to stay in the nets if we carry on like this?

[Choppy Chop Chop]

Great performances from Dubs, long may it continue 

[CPL]

This is where I'm hoping Mitchell can work his magic and uncover a hidden gem. A decent stop stopper with good feet and distribution. 

[Holloway]

He's done well when called upon for this little spell, but if you turn back just a few pages 

[El Prontonise]

2 hours ago, Rod said:

I actually thought the Digne save was a poor one if there's such a thing.  He pushed it straight out into the danger zone.  Pope would have caught that or thrown his cap on it.

 

Pope would've punched it judging by his saves this season.

[Yorkie]

Enjoyed Dubs' performances but unless we think we can prevent there ever being a shot to his right hand side, Pope returns the moment he's available. 

[Aiston]

If Dub's can keep the form up, don't see a problem in rotating Pope/ Dubs, depending on the style of play of the opposition and the chances we'd expect them to have.

But, doubt that sort of keeper rotation would happen at all.

 

[Chris_R]

52 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

The difference his distribution makes is phenomenal. 
 

I’d be playing him in goal every week, if I knew we weren’t gonna be facing many shots.

 

This is the key.

 

Dubs has looked great but has barely had to get his kit dirty for 4 games. If we just want someone who can play a bit on goal and we won't be facing any shots, you might as well play an outfielder there. Stick Miley in nets, he could do with a bit of game time and is good with his feet.

 

Dubravka has shown in the last couple of years that when he needs to stop a shot, he can't. Lauding him for games where he's had almost no shots to stop is fundamentally flawed, and I doubt he'll have that luxury against Spurs who, despite being leaky at the back, are all-out going forwards. Whilst ball-playing is lovely, we need a keeper who can actually keep the ball out of the net too and I don't think Dubravka is that man.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

He was so good with the ball last night. If only we could play a team that barely threatens out goal every week and he'd be perfect.

[M1tche]

Where has this myth come from that he's made no saves? 

 

Fair enough he's not had loads to do, but he's made a couple of decent saves since he's come it. His sweeping 100x times better than he used to, and his distribution takes out a pressing trigger for other teams, which not only means that they can only really go off Burn for a trigger it now, it also means he can miss player out and go into a FB or someone else instead of Pope's short pass the a CB, or kick it off the pitch options.

[Shearergol]

13 hours ago, Rod said:

I actually thought the Digne save was a poor one if there's such a thing.  He pushed it straight out into the danger zone.  Pope would have caught that or thrown his cap on it.

It went to the left. Pope would have left it afraid of hurting himself. 
 

none of our keepers are good enough for a top 4 team. Pope’s been absolutely class since we signed him but he’s a shadow of his former self and his distribution is one of the poorest in the league. His injury has ruined him.

[Rod]

2 hours ago, Shearergol said:

It went to the left. Pope would have left it afraid of hurting himself. 
 

none of our keepers are good enough for a top 4 team. Pope’s been absolutely class since we signed him but he’s a shadow of his former self and his distribution is one of the poorest in the league. His injury has ruined him.

Ruined him?  Really?

[Heron]

What makes a good keeper nowadays? Liek what's the basis? I feel there's more emphasis with foot action than goalkeeping and if thatis genuinely the case then perhaps Dubravka is closer to number 1 at present...

[Lush Vlad]

9 hours ago, Shearergol said:

It went to the left. Pope would have left it afraid of hurting himself. 
 

none of our keepers are good enough for a top 4 team. Pope’s been absolutely class since we signed him but he’s a shadow of his former self and his distribution is one of the poorest in the league. His injury has ruined him.

The diving to the left thing is massively overplayed. He did look unnatural for a bit going to that side. But are people forgetting the top class save he made against Liverpool?
 

Mac Allister drilled one bottom corner and Pope got down full stretch to his left. His arm ending up in the same position as when his shoulder went against Man U. 
 

I do think the last 5 games have highlighted how much better we would be longer term with a keeper who is comfortable on the ball. However, I still maintain it won’t be cheap to find a keeper who is as good as Pope. But can spray it about like an extra outfield player. James Trafford is certainly not that player currently and who knows if he ever will be. 
 

If we really are hamstrung by PSR. Other areas need addressing first IMO. But in an ideal world, having a ball playing keeper would be class. 

[ExiledGeordie]

I think he’s done really well recently, can’t see him leaving this Jan unless we’ve got someone coming in to replace him? 

[Tsunami]

TBF we could have played Shelvey in goal these last 4 games and we’d be discussing if he should be England’s No 1.

[Wallsendmag]

I'm not a massive fan of Dubravka and thought he was shocking when he deputised last season, but it has to be said that the defence look more comfortable playing in front of him than Pope.

 

I do get the feeling Pope may be on borrowed time here anyway.

[SUPERTOON]

Saudi media saying deal agreed with club and player for him. Deal to go through sometime in January.

[ponsaelius]

It's bizarre that he's having his best form for the club in years and undoubtedly contributed to our upturn in form (the improvement in possession/control in games has been pretty key) right at the point where he's going to leave. 

 

I still think he's basically done as a PL keeper, and will undoubtedly return to dropping in clangers at some point, but it it does feel a weird departure point given the various other times it has seemed like he was out the door.

 

I do wonder if we're going to push for Trafford in January. 

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, ponsaelius said:

It's bizarre that he's having his best form for the club in years and undoubtedly contributed to our upturn in form (the improvement in possession/control in games has been pretty key) right at the point where he's going to leave. 

 

I still think he's basically done as a PL keeper, and will undoubtedly return to dropping in clangers at some point, but it it does feel a weird departure point given the various other times it has seemed like he was out the door.

 

I do wonder if we're going to push for Trafford in January. 

 

 

Really hope we don’t go for Trafford.