madras Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, TRon said: Well he's scored 6 goals tbf, that's not awful. He just isn't a good footballer aside from that. He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, madras said: He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Effort is the absolute minimum that should be required. If he is weak at something, address it. Use extra hours to train. The best players don't just stop after training and that's that, no they keep on even if everyone else go home. Im sorry but his passing, his positioning, his reaction time and his weakness 1v1 and finishing is something he could have worked on his all career, it just seems like he either don't know how to improve or the coaches on the training pitch don't know how to shape the players. I don't know what it is, but he is a bad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, madras said: He's not a good footballer(at the level we are aiming) but he is a workhorse. Unfortunately though he's going g to be left behind where we are going (he knows it too). No need for anyone to slag him off, he's black and white through and gives his all Agree, I wouldn't slag him off. Not sure if you are referring to my comments, I just gave him some credit for getting 6 goals and said what you did about him not being a very good footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 He's apparently been playing with a knock for a long time, which is testament to his attitude and love for the club. That said, he's been found wanting on a good few occasions this season. Perhaps Eddie should have taken him out of the firing line more, but felt unable to? I'm far from a Longstaff hater - he''s a good squad option, but if the club is to progress - better players than him needed for the first XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 My heart sinks when he misses like he did tonight. It’s criminal the amount of very good chances that come to nothing. For someone who isn’t great on the ball he could make up for it if he was a quality finisher but alas he’s not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, TRon said: Agree, I wouldn't slag him off. Not sure if you are referring to my comments, I just gave him some credit for getting 6 goals and said what you did about him not being a very good footballer. Probably not yours but the slaggings off he gets in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 He's got 8 goals in all comps. It's a good return, shows genuine improvement on previous seasons. It's a skill in itself to keep getting chances even if you miss them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 just no self-belief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, ponsaelius said: He's got 8 goals in all comps. It's a good return, shows genuine improvement on previous seasons. It's a skill in itself to keep getting chances even if you miss them. His movement is the best part of his game in an attacking sense but we create a lot more chances than most sides and he’s the one on the end of a ton. I’d be interested to know what his xG is and how much he’s underperforming this season and previously. You cannot rely on him to score in positions where he should and that’s just not good enough even though his goal return isn’t awful on face value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 He just isn't very good. Can't be loyal to him because he's a Geordie and 'he's a great lad' or 'good in the dressing room' or whatever. He should not be starting the bulk of our league games next season. Against a shithole suburb of Ljubljana if we can manage to beat the team that's 16th away from home on Sunday, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, Rich said: How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. Said it all season, he just hovers around the general area where the ball is without getting involved. He's just there in the background most of the time, when it does fall his way his control often lets him down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhSholaAmeobi Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, Rich said: How many central midfielders do we reckon have had multiple games in a Premier League season where they haven't made a tackle, interception, block, or clearance? I've legitimately never seen a central midfielder not be involved in a duel until tonight, either. Fucking pathetic, injury or not. He plays the exact same way when 'injury-free' so I don't buy it either. Even if he doesn't have the ability at least be hard in the tackle like Anderson is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I think a lot of his issues are upstairs, combined with carrying an injury. He never ever looks confident, or even happy on the pitch. When we score, he just looks flat, i've noticed it a lot this season. Not suggesting he doesn't care, just that he seems elsewhere mentally and has for some time. Can't dislike the lad but he's played far more games than he should have or would have expected to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Perfect position, in lots of space, great angle to hit it low and across goal on his strong foot. And he just whacks it straight at Onana. This is the one thing he needs to be able to do, as he typically strikes the ball pretty well. If he can't manage it then he has to be pushed way back in the midfield reckoning. The falling over continues and the amazingly poor passes in great positions. It's just too much man. Please no more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, KaKa said: Perfect position, in lots of space, great angle to hit it low and across goal on his strong foot. And he just whacks it straight at Onana. This is the one thing he needs to be able to do, as he typically strikes the ball pretty well. If he can't manage it then he has to be pushed way back in the midfield reckoning. The falling over continues and the amazingly poor passes in great positions. It's just too much man. Please no more. Said earlier in the week - Maxence Caqueret Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Perfect position, in lots of space, great angle to hit it low and across goal on his strong foot. And he just whacks it straight at Onana. This is the one thing he needs to be able to do, as he typically strikes the ball pretty well. If he can't manage it then he has to be pushed way back in the midfield reckoning. The falling over continues and the amazingly poor passes in great positions. It's just too much man. Please no more. Isn't the first paragraph Son the other day ? Even last season he had an issue missing seemingly g sitters...as did Willock and Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 15 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: He's got 8 goals in all comps. It's a good return, shows genuine improvement on previous seasons. It's a skill in itself to keep getting chances even if you miss them. Yeah it's mad. Really bad season, but scored more in one season than Ginola did in his Newcastle career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Perfect position, in lots of space, great angle to hit it low and across goal on his strong foot. And he just whacks it straight at Onana. This is the one thing he needs to be able to do, as he typically strikes the ball pretty well. If he can't manage it then he has to be pushed way back in the midfield reckoning. The falling over continues and the amazingly poor passes in great positions. It's just too much man. Please no more. Eddie said in his last presser they’d been working on his finishing. His finishing is much like his passing. Once he’s decided what he’s going to do 2/3 seconds have passed and it’s too late. He's not even looking by the time he’s shooting or playing that final pass. Doesn’t notice the covering player or the goalkeepers position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, madras said: Isn't the first paragraph Son the other day ? Even last season he had an issue missing seemingly g sitters...as did Willock and Joelinton. Willock and Joelinton show flashes of real ability on the ball, that's the difference for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 If I see him starting week in week out next year alongside Murphy and Krafth I'll absolutely lose it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, madras said: Isn't the first paragraph Son the other day ? Even last season he had an issue missing seemingly g sitters...as did Willock and Joelinton. Yes, it was Son the other day. However, most of what Longstaff adds is so poor at this point, that he can't be fluffing such chances. No way. He doesn't have that luxury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, TRon said: Willock and Joelinton show flashes of real ability on the ball, that's the difference for me. And Longstaff energy off the ball, we need both. I think Tonali was the catalyst to change the plan, his ban kept things as they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Willock and Joelinton show flashes of real ability on the ball, that's the difference for me. The play from Joelinton to receive the ball run through the centre and thread through Longstaff was absolutely brilliant, as an example. Incomparable what Joelinton and Willock add in general play compared to Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Bruno Enhances Longstaffs game, could you imagine if we had the quality of someone that could enhance Bruno's game, that's where we need to be. Sean can watch and learn, hopefully he'll see what's needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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