Elliottman Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: Always baffles me how players at this level who have trained their entire lives to play football can’t strike a ball with good technique when it’s one of the easiest things you can work on in training pressure I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 He has at least 2 or 3 instances per game where he dawdles on the ball and ends up losing it. Puts in the graft though but thats not enough if we want to progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, Elliottman said: pressure I imagine. Sure, but enough muscle memory should mean you at least set yourself correctly. He should be working on it tirelessly as he gets a lot of shots from a 20-yard range Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Would have taken him off instead of Willock, but easy to say in hindsight when you're wondering what would have made the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gbandit said: Always baffles me how players at this level who have trained their entire lives to play football can’t strike a ball with good technique when it’s one of the easiest things you can work on in training Thought his shooting was good when he first broke through but it's been terrible for ages, really low on confidence in the final third for some reason. Edited December 31, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Don't think he was that bad overall tbh. We know his limitations. But those two finishes were absolutely shocking. He had another opening towards the end where he should definitely have took the shot as well but clearly bottled it because of the earlier misses. All the more annoying because he makes the right kind of runs where he could really do with offering a goal threat - and when he was out on loan as a young player shooting seemed to be one of his strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Don't think he was that bad overall tbh. We know his limitations. But those two finishes were absolutely shocking. He had another opening towards the end where he should definitely have took the shot as well but clearly bottled it because of the earlier misses. All the more annoying because he makes the right kind of runs where he could really do with offering a goal threat - and when he was out on loan as a young player shooting seemed to be one of his strengths. his shooting has digressed massively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 He’s a squad player only. Should not be starting in a team pushing for Europe. Fucking woeful today. DOGSHIT anywhere near goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Had a bad day. I'd keep him as a squad player and sub. You need players like him. His decision making and vision is a yard slower than most in that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Works his socks off, but is no where near premier league quality. Unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Poor match today, shame as he’s been great recently. Everyone’s entitled to a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, TorchyTBB said: Works his socks off, but is no where near premier league quality. Unfortunately. Not premier league level???? lol Not even top 3 premier league level - that's bs! He's clearly PL level, just has limitations. Knee Jerk central. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said: Not premier league level???? lol Not even top 3 premier league level - that's bs! He's clearly PL level, just has limitations. Knee Jerk central. Not knee jerk at all. He would never get a regular place in any other top half team and won't in ours as soon as a we have a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TorchyTBB said: Works his socks off, but is no where near premier league quality. Unfortunately. Fucking hell, he has started 13/17 games (full 90 minutes 10 games in a row during the great run) for a team that's deservedly third at New Year's Eve and you say he's no where near PL quality. Edited December 31, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, TorchyTBB said: Not knee jerk at all. He would never get a regular place in any other top half team and won't in ours as soon as a we have a replacement. Isn't the bottom half part of Premier League too? How quickly some forget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Pata said: Isn't the bottom half part of Premier League too? How quickly some forget Forget what? He's not premier league quality, do you really think he will be a regular in our team next season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Comical man! Guess your the type that boo the players too. To Pata's point, short memory. Football is often about players who do the dirty work - I agree he wont be a starter in 2 seasons but your point is actually foolish, as we are 3rd in the league and he's played a huge part in the team getting there. GIve your head a shake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 We will probably be playing a lot more games next season. He will be a handy squad player going forward. Will never be a world beater though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, Oregon_Geordie said: Comical man! Guess your the type that boo the players too. To Pata's point, short memory. Football is often about players who do the dirty work - I agree he wont be a starter in 2 seasons but your point is actually foolish, as we are 3rd in the league and he's played a huge part in the team getting there. GIve your head a shake I really don't boo players. If you really think Lonstaff is premier leagure quality, maybe it's not me that needs to give my head a shake. It's my opinion and I most definitely stand by it. We are all entitled to one and you are entitled to disagree. That's life... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Wasn't great today but others missed easier chances than his. He lost all confidence after the second miss and needs to be pulled out for a couple of games, with ASM moving inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, TorchyTBB said: I really don't boo players. If you really think Lonstaff is premier leagure quality, maybe it's not me that needs to give my head a shake. It's my opinion and I most definitely stand by it. We are all entitled to one and you are entitled to disagree. That's life... Lol I trust Howe over you or myself, he seems to rate him as premier league quality. I guess he's playing in the Premier League my chance. Maybe he won a competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 He's a great squad player. Hope he stays for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Such a hard player to assess. Does a good job in some elements of the game but is ultimately too slow and not good enough to be a top player. I reckon replace him with a top midfielder and we could easily win 3-0 today. No hard feelings though, has a place in the squad and does the best job he can. Edited December 31, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, TorchyTBB said: I really don't boo players. If you really think Lonstaff is premier leagure quality, maybe it's not me that needs to give my head a shake. It's my opinion and I most definitely stand by it. We are all entitled to one and you are entitled to disagree. That's life... He is premier league quality though. He's playing in the prem for a top side, and has been class for most of this season. He's not perfect, even he would agree with that. And he'll know where he needs to improve if he wants to keep up with the rise of our club. Him being premier league quality isn't even an opinion. It's fact. Will he spend all of his career in top flight football? fuck if I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Has anyone noticed how easily players get past him with the ball? A simple drop of the shoulder or a step over and he is done. When we do corners or free kick set pieces and leave him as last man I find it terrifying.... He was awful today, not just his poor shooting. Pretty much everything was desperately bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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