Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Wow, when you consider that, Muto. £9.5M, my bad. Same article says we sold Mitro for £22M. Selling off Mitro then for £22M, Sissoko(£25), Wijnaldum(£22) and, Mbemba raised Ashley some funds. Only when Rafa left he spent it on Joelinton - an agent tax dodge. Rafa refused Joelinton, because he's shit. £40M, record siging out of nowhere? on a player that's, well shit? Edited November 28, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: 20 years ago we we're playing in the Champions League were we not? Aye, but I’m pretty sure it’s over 17 years ago that I was sat in St James’ watching a Graeme Sourness managed NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: Emil Krath? Just shit. Jamal Lewis, he's shit as well. Mikel Merino was good, he didn't stay too long. The closest thing to replacing Cabaye. Came from Dortmund, within 2 months was linked at Barca. Mitro, replaced with Joselu. Adam Armstrong allowed to leave and replaced with Muto for 11M£. That was all under Rafa's watch, if he didn't want to sell those players he would probably have said so. Add Mbabu to the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Unbelievable said: Aye, but I’m pretty sure it’s over 17 years ago that I was sat in St James’ watching a Graeme Sourness managed NUFC Where were Spurs 20 years ago? But apparently Spurs are a big club now, and in the 'top 6', and there is nothing anyone can do about it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRon said: That was all under Rafa's watch, if he didn't want to sell those players he would probably have said so. Add Mbabu to the list. Aye, but doubt Joselu was top of Rafa's list for strikers that summer. Doubt even loaning Tammy Abraham from Chelsea was top of the list either. No, wait - Islam Slimani to the rescue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Abra Dubravka said: "We're rich as fuck and fucking shit - rich as fuck, we're fucking shit" Discussions over whether Lascelles should play over Fernandez is redundant. Fernandez was relegated with Swansea, he's only a bit less shit. Same conversation with Ritchie at LB - aye, Ritchie is shite, but Lewis is shit as well. Any discussion on our players now really is throwing shit in the air and arguing over which pile smells best. Ashley/Bruce have left us now with the worst squad I've seen in my time... Dubravka/Schar/ASM/Wilson. Going into this season those players were the only players I thought good enough to be starting for Newcastle United. It's so sad how low the standards of this club have fallen. Media take the piss, thinking we all expect to be in CL; but honestly, take a good look at what Ashley and Bruce left us with - would Fernandez get in any other side in the PL? I'm not sure that I quite follow the point? That all the players are shit and everything is shit, so there's no point discussing any of it? But if so, that's where we are, unfortunately. So, I'd say it's exactly why it is worth discussing, because the cavalry aren't arriving till January and we need the best chance of getting a few points up till then, with what we've already got, to give ourselves a fighting chance. More than that, we need to try them all out so we know which are the most urgent to replace under an actual coach and with a defined system of play. So, it's about making the most of the players we have until then. And of a limited set of defenders I think it's odd that Fernandez isn't given a chance or even in the squad. He's not exactly great, but of what we've got left he's surely a better bet than Clark, Krafth or Lascelles. It was still a crime shipping out Lejeune out of all of them, but hey, we are where we are. I can only guess there are some big player influences behind the scenes re who gets selected, since there has been a managerial vacuum for over 2 years. Instead of...you know, objectively picking the best actual players from what we've got to work with now. Edited November 28, 2021 by Abacus . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, TRon said: That was all under Rafa's watch, if he didn't want to sell those players he would probably have said so. Add Mbabu to the list. Kevin Mbabu left Newcastle and has done well for himself, and kicked on his career. It's honestly boring that his name keeps on being mentioned. Nobody gave a toss about him when was actually at the club... He left Newcastle to play in the Swiss League, and has progressed - good on him, well done. By the same standard - what are your thoughts on Haris Vukic, Ole Soderberg, Fabio Zambrela, Oliver Kemen? Have you been tracking their careers lately? It's boring to hark back at players like Mbabu just because they are actually now good - likewise with Toney, Armstrong. Haven't heard much latley about Shane Ferguson, or Adam Campbell's season for heed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Abra Dubravka said: Kevin Mbabu left Newcastle and has done well for himself, and kicked on his career. It's honestly boring that his name keeps on being mentioned. Nobody gave a toss about him when was actually at the club... He left Newcastle to play in the Swiss League, and has progressed - good on him, well done. By the same standard - what are your thoughts on Haris Vukic, Ole Soderberg, Fabio Zambrela, Oliver Kemen? Have you been tracking their careers lately? It's boring to hark back at players like Mbabu just because they are actually now good - likewise with Toney, Armstrong. Haven't heard much latley about Shane Ferguson, or Adam Campbell's season for heed I do get that, but Mbabu looked fantastic in the one game he started, iirc he was MoM. It wasn't that much of a shock when he turned out to be pretty good. Toney I never got to see him in a Newcastle shirt so can't really comment personally, but whoever scouted him has been vindicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Neither Mbabu nor Toney would have developed or matured here. Our club is literally not capable of that nor would they ever had the playing time to become what they’ve become today. This argument is so tiresome and shit. The same for Adam Armstrong. Until we fix the entire system and nurture and develop the youngsters here and on loan and back, it’ll be the same perpetual cycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 He absolutely 100% has to start over Clark tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just the man for a big game. He's a leader in my book, no idea what he's done to deserve getting benched. Will be good to see him back tomorrow as I refuse to believe Howe will start Clark ahead of him. Those quotes are reassuring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I assume he sees Fede and Lascelles as like for like in terms of what they offer to the team. Clark is likely only playing because he's a left footed CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I think if he goes 3-4-3 again, Fernandez will come back in. He might stick with Krafth or Clark to play next to Schar, if not. I hope I'm wrong and he plays regardless. It's a bit of a back handed compliment with the current lot, but I still think he's our best defender. You have to wonder if there was some fall out with Bruce and/or Jones and there has been some carry over from that into Howe's setup. As there is no other logical explanation for playing with Krafth, Clark and even an out of position Hayden, instead of him. When was the last game he played, August/September?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: He absolutely 100% has to start over Clark tomorrow. Schar and FF just have to start along with Lewis and Murphy (in a 3-4-3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I’d say he’s seen enough of Lascelles now to know he won’t be starting for a while. Basically both goals Arsenal scored he was looking right at it and did nothing. Good chance for Fernandez to step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Eddie, just ignore Jones shite opinion and put him in to start tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 6 hours ago, The Prophet said: Good. Now pick him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Mikky said: Schar and FF just have to start along with Lewis and Murphy (in a 3-4-3) Think I'd rather see Manquillo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Needs to be starting. Looked so much assured with him at the back. He's not prime Maldini like by no means, but he's our best centre half by way of him being vaguely competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, Doctor Zaius said: Needs to be starting. Looked so much assured with him at the back. He's not prime Maldini like by no means, but he's our best centre half by way of him being vaguely competent. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Has to start from now on. Ahead of Lascelles too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Aye. That was him rusty and he was absolutely fine. Marshalling people, orchestrating things, defending cleanly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Miles ahead of Clark and Lascelles, what the fuck has been going on to keep him out of the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Formidable tonight. Simply has to be in the team going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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