LFEE Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 19:13, KaKa said: Paid £20 million for him right? Think we've done well on this deal all things considered. Good to see. Expand Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 20:21, JigsawGoesToPieces said: So if we paid £21m for him on a 5 1/2 year contract in Jan 19, but he signed a new 3 1/2 contract in Feb 23 and were getting £10m back for him have we actually nearly broke even with him in terms of FFP 🤣 Edit so original contract was omortisised at £3.8m per year so we had paid £15.2m we then signed a new contract which then spread the remainder of the £4.8m over another 3 1/2 years which is £1.3m a year so we have paid a further £2.6m of him, £17.7m in total plus salary. That how it works? Expand £21m / 5 = £4.2 m per year new contract in 22/23 - so 19/20, 20/21, 21/22 count for previous amortisation (three seasons) £4.2m * 3 = £12.6m amortised £21m - £12.6m = £8.4m £8.4m / 4 = £2.1 m per season 22/23, 23/24, 24/25 = three seasons £2.1m * 3 = £6.3m £8.4m - £6.3m = £2.1m remaining amortisation £10m - £2.1m = £7.9m So Almiron would yield around £8m PSR ‘profit’ with a sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) On 20/01/2025 at 21:10, LFEE said: Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. Expand We absolutely paid those fees, nothing to do with Ashley’s PR this one. Fees are recorded and paid, they’re on the company books - and the tax man in the US, and Germany would no doubt take great interest if the selling clubs weren’t putting on their books what has been recorded in ours and by all parties. Edit: if £21m included wages over five years + signing on fee then Atlanta would have been paying us Edited January 20 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 21:34, TheBrownBottle said: We absolutely paid those fees, nothing to do with Ashley’s PR this one. Fees are recorded and paid, they’re on the company books - and the tax man in the US, and Germany would no doubt take great interest if the selling clubs weren’t putting on their books what has been recorded in ours and by all parties. Edit: if £21m included wages over five years + signing on fee then Atlanta would have been paying us Expand We didn’t get a visit from the Inland Revenue for nothing Fair enough but I still have my doubts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 "Atlanta United reached a verbal agreement with Newcastle to buy Miguel Almirón for US$ 12,000,000. The club is negotiating the final details of the player's contract, who is ready to travel and sign." Goodbye sweet prince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 We would also save 3 mill pounds per year on his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:46, The Prophet said: "Atlanta United reached a verbal agreement with Newcastle to buy Miguel Almirón for US$ 12,000,000. The club is negotiating the final details of the player's contract, who is ready to travel and sign." Goodbye sweet prince. Expand Though Trump was stopping Mexicans coming in? (Old htt joke) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 20/01/2025 at 22:20, LFEE said: We didn’t get a visit from the Inland Revenue for nothing Fair enough but I still have my doubts. Expand I completely understand your skepticism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 How long does it take to accept a bid? Trump signed loads of executive orders in like 30 minutes. Does Mithcell need a marker pen to acceot the bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 05:28, nufcjb said: How long does it take to accept a bid? Trump signed loads of executive orders in like 30 minutes. Does Mithcell need a marker pen to acceot the bid? Expand Is Mithcell related to Hucthison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 21:10, LFEE said: Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. Expand you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 After playing in the Premier League Miggy will go back there and be far better for them than he was last time. I wish him nothing but good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 08:19, James said: you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Expand Was it time-barred? Because Almiron playing in the CL for us turned out to not be that dubious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2025 at 22:49, Dokko said: Though Trump was stopping Mexicans coming in? (Old htt joke) Expand dont ever explain. was it @Bimpy474? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 08:19, James said: you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Expand Yeah it was a whole PR stunt. The fee was definitely less than Owen’s. Wether since then it surpassed it we’ll never know. Joelinton’s fee just a dodgy. Especially as the agent was the same as ASM’s (?) who we got relatively cheap. Add the two together and there’s probably logic in there but money was definitely being moved in dodgy ways back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 10:07, LFEE said: Joelinton’s fee just a dodgy. Expand Aye, it should have been at least double what he cost, definitely something fishy about that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 09:55, huss9 said: dont ever explain. was it @Bimpy474? Expand Weren't me mate, I'll lay claim to set penises but not the Mexicans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 16:44, Bimpy474 said: Weren't me mate, I'll lay claim to set penises but not the Mexicans Expand who started the Giggs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 17:28, huss9 said: who started the Giggs? Expand Natasha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 17:30, STM said: Natasha. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 HTT no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 17:39, Kanj said: HTT no? Expand What happened to him, he used to write very interesting things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Aye HTT is a miss, very, very long posts but always had something to add to any discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 He hasn't gone away, he just started writing a reply 6 months ago and is still writing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 21/01/2025 at 18:18, frankpingel said: Aye HTT is a miss, very, very long posts but always had something to add to any discussion. Expand Words mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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