Shak Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah very frustrating, what was he doing ffs and similar to Joelinton crossing v Liverpool away when he should’ve taken it to the corner. I think we still lacks players with that nous and experience to see games out. Chelsea away when Havaertz scored at the death too. I think as our quality of player improves we’ll see less of this. We fail to close out too many of these type of games. Miggy is knackered though with Barnes and Murphy out who would’ve been coming on with 20-25 to go and even starting some games. Never had a problem with Joelinton putting the ball in the box against Liverpool. It was 1-1 and we had men forward, we could have won the game there. Aye, it very much backfired in the result but the process always made sense to me. Almiron was basically just giving the ball back to them. You're never scoring from there and we were winning the game. Just so silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Magpie Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 18/12/2023 at 16:26, Gallowgate Toon said: The main problem with Miggy is that he plays to the pattern almost 100% when on the right, there's practically no deviation from it. Even if there's space for him to attack and he has legs on his opponent, it's still most often the same move which really slows us down. And his lack of right peg too Aye, rare for him to do any different but watcing Gordon doing the same, time and time again electing not to go down the wing but set off into central areas, leads me to think it might be Howe's instructions. Leaving aside Miggy can't cross with his left you can't do the same thing every time, even a 12 yr old would quickly suss you out and be ready for it. Also remember now last night, Tino had at least two opportunities to bomb down the wing and elected to turn and pass in towards the central areas. Got to be a Howe thing but failing to understand why atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah very frustrating, what was he doing ffs and similar to Joelinton crossing v Liverpool away when he should’ve taken it to the corner. I think we still lacks players with that nous and experience to see games out. Chelsea away when Havaertz scored at the death too. I think as our quality of player improves we’ll see less of this. We fail to close out too many of these type of games. Miggy is knackered though with Barnes and Murphy out who would’ve been coming on with 20-25 to go and even starting some games. Miggy's not really one of those players you would ever really credit with nous. He plays at 100mph, which is fantastic in many aspects, his pace is an asset, especially defensively. You won't see him playing many defence splitting passes though, and even fewer killer crosses. He's a workhorse mainly, been great for us to this stage, but won't take us to the next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Miggy really only works when the rest of the team are making the space for him, Longstaff making those runs into the channels, Trippier offering width, Bruno in the 8 position, dragging teams around. Otherwise he doesn’t have the chops to beat someone and isn’t really a threat in terms of crossing or passing. We really needed to upgrade RW in summer, looks a mistake to have not done that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Shak said: Never had a problem with Joelinton putting the ball in the box against Liverpool. It was 1-1 and we had men forward, we could have won the game there. Aye, it very much backfired in the result but the process always made sense to me. Almiron was basically just giving the ball back to them. You're never scoring from there and we were winning the game. Just so silly. I never had an issue with Joelinton as it should have been the last play of the game anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, AJ9 said: Miggy really only works when the rest of the team are making the space for him, Longstaff making those runs into the channels, Trippier offering width, Bruno in the 8 position, dragging teams around. Otherwise he doesn’t have the chops to beat someone and isn’t really a threat in terms of crossing or passing. We really needed to upgrade RW in summer, looks a mistake to have not done that now. So basically he needs two world class players right next to him to look good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I've totally had enough of the fella. Don't care how nice a person he is, he needs to be replaced this coming month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Sign new RW in Jan. Asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, et tu brute said: I've totally had enough of the fella. Don't care how nice a person he is, he needs to be replaced this coming month I'm so at the point of wanting to see him dropped (if we had a proper replacement at the mo), as much as it pains me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I thought he was one of the few players who looked like he was playing at 100% in the first half, he was looking quite sharp....until he got in the penalty area. Watching Salah ram the ball home just now shows the difference real class makes at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Miggy doesnt get enough goals . Mind you neither does Bruno or Longstaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He's shattered and it shows. When we can rotate and he's not playing 90 minutes 3 times a week we'll see more from him. Never stops trying though, had a mental sprint against Chelsea late on to close down their keeper where I couldn't understand where he got the energy. Will be a brilliant rotation option for us going forward once we have other options, be that Murphy and Barnes coming back or an incoming transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, TRon said: I thought he was one of the few players who looked like he was playing at 100% in the first half, he was looking quite sharp....until he got in the penalty area. Watching Salah ram the ball home just now shows the difference real class makes at this level. you thought completely wrong if that’s what you saw first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Miggy doesnt get enough goals . Mind you neither does Bruno or Longstaff I could tolerate the lack of goals if he got enough assists but he doesn't get those either, only managed 6 in his entire Premier Leaugue career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I could tolerate the lack of goals if he got enough assists but he doesn't get those either, only managed 6 in his entire Premier Leaugue career This is the most worrying stat and only 1 assist this season. Diaby who we tracked for so long has 5 this season already and I believe he has been injured for part of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, pubteam said: This is the most worrying stat and only 1 assist this season. Diaby who we tracked for so long has 5 this season already and I believe he has been injured for part of that. Neto has 7 and he's missed a chunk of the season Players like Almiron, Burn etc have been good for us but we really have to start being ruthless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Bar the odd Worldie, he does very very little but open space up for Trippier. He's Sunday league level in regards using both feet and it's too easy to read. Lovely lad, bang average footballer who runs around a lot....well did. He's too tired to right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, pubteam said: This is the most worrying stat and only 1 assist this season. Diaby who we tracked for so long has 5 this season already and I believe he has been injured for part of that. He has 6 PL assists since he signed for the club in January 2019. 6 assists in 5 years, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: He has 6 PL assists since he signed for the club in January 2019. 6 assists in 5 years, man. Not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: He has 6 PL assists since he signed for the club in January 2019. 6 assists in 5 years, man. It's a good point but he was a millimetre away from getting an assist today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) The Bruce years hardly count re: that assist stat. Was playing as an auxiliary fullback the majority of the time. We all know his limitations, but there's no particular reason to single him out today. His game is very much emblematic of our playing style overall - centred around energy and intensity. Take both of those away through fatigue and it's little wonder he looks poor, as with the rest of the team to somewhat varying degrees. Edited December 23, 2023 by Barnes23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He makes bad decisions all the time. I really don’t think it would be hard to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: The Bruce years hardly count. Was playing as an auxiliary fullback the vast majority of the time. We all know his limitations, but there's no particular reason to single him out today. His game is very much emblematic of our playing style overall - centred around energy and intensity. Take both of those away through fatigue and it's little wonder he looks poor, as with the rest of the team to somewhat varying degrees. He's played more games not under Bruce than under Bruce. We needed a RW in the summer and we still need one now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 He’ll be a good RW sub to run around at tired legs. Scored some crackers for us. His 1 leg is a handicap. Hope he’s the bench option come next summer (love him btw but needs must) onwards and upwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Done with this one. It's the end of the line for a few, after today - Almiron is part of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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