LFEE Posted Monday at 21:10 Share Posted Monday at 21:10 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Paid £20 million for him right? Think we've done well on this deal all things considered. Good to see. Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 21:32 Share Posted Monday at 21:32 1 hour ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: So if we paid £21m for him on a 5 1/2 year contract in Jan 19, but he signed a new 3 1/2 contract in Feb 23 and were getting £10m back for him have we actually nearly broke even with him in terms of FFP 🤣 Edit so original contract was omortisised at £3.8m per year so we had paid £15.2m we then signed a new contract which then spread the remainder of the £4.8m over another 3 1/2 years which is £1.3m a year so we have paid a further £2.6m of him, £17.7m in total plus salary. That how it works? £21m / 5 = £4.2 m per year new contract in 22/23 - so 19/20, 20/21, 21/22 count for previous amortisation (three seasons) £4.2m * 3 = £12.6m amortised £21m - £12.6m = £8.4m £8.4m / 4 = £2.1 m per season 22/23, 23/24, 24/25 = three seasons £2.1m * 3 = £6.3m £8.4m - £6.3m = £2.1m remaining amortisation £10m - £2.1m = £7.9m So Almiron would yield around £8m PSR ‘profit’ with a sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 21:34 Share Posted Monday at 21:34 (edited) 24 minutes ago, LFEE said: Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. We absolutely paid those fees, nothing to do with Ashley’s PR this one. Fees are recorded and paid, they’re on the company books - and the tax man in the US, and Germany would no doubt take great interest if the selling clubs weren’t putting on their books what has been recorded in ours and by all parties. Edit: if £21m included wages over five years + signing on fee then Atlanta would have been paying us Edited Monday at 21:35 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Monday at 22:20 Share Posted Monday at 22:20 44 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We absolutely paid those fees, nothing to do with Ashley’s PR this one. Fees are recorded and paid, they’re on the company books - and the tax man in the US, and Germany would no doubt take great interest if the selling clubs weren’t putting on their books what has been recorded in ours and by all parties. Edit: if £21m included wages over five years + signing on fee then Atlanta would have been paying us We didn’t get a visit from the Inland Revenue for nothing Fair enough but I still have my doubts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 22:46 Share Posted Monday at 22:46 "Atlanta United reached a verbal agreement with Newcastle to buy Miguel Almirón for US$ 12,000,000. The club is negotiating the final details of the player's contract, who is ready to travel and sign." Goodbye sweet prince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted Monday at 22:48 Share Posted Monday at 22:48 We would also save 3 mill pounds per year on his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Monday at 22:49 Share Posted Monday at 22:49 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: "Atlanta United reached a verbal agreement with Newcastle to buy Miguel Almirón for US$ 12,000,000. The club is negotiating the final details of the player's contract, who is ready to travel and sign." Goodbye sweet prince. Though Trump was stopping Mexicans coming in? (Old htt joke) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 22:52 Share Posted Monday at 22:52 31 minutes ago, LFEE said: We didn’t get a visit from the Inland Revenue for nothing Fair enough but I still have my doubts. I completely understand your skepticism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted yesterday at 05:28 Share Posted yesterday at 05:28 How long does it take to accept a bid? Trump signed loads of executive orders in like 30 minutes. Does Mithcell need a marker pen to acceot the bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted yesterday at 05:34 Share Posted yesterday at 05:34 4 minutes ago, nufcjb said: How long does it take to accept a bid? Trump signed loads of executive orders in like 30 minutes. Does Mithcell need a marker pen to acceot the bid? Is Mithcell related to Hucthison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted yesterday at 08:19 Share Posted yesterday at 08:19 11 hours ago, LFEE said: Only if you believe Ashley’s PR! Was less than Owen so including his wages for the 5yrs probably£21m in total. Still don’t think we paid £40m for Joelinton unless it included his contract too. you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted yesterday at 09:17 Share Posted yesterday at 09:17 After playing in the Premier League Miggy will go back there and be far better for them than he was last time. I wish him nothing but good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 09:18 Share Posted yesterday at 09:18 58 minutes ago, James said: you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Was it time-barred? Because Almiron playing in the CL for us turned out to not be that dubious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted yesterday at 09:55 Share Posted yesterday at 09:55 11 hours ago, Dokko said: Though Trump was stopping Mexicans coming in? (Old htt joke) dont ever explain. was it @Bimpy474? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted yesterday at 10:07 Share Posted yesterday at 10:07 1 hour ago, James said: you are kind of right it was reported a few months later that Atlanta actually received £16m + some rather dubious performance linked bonuses e.g. if we qualified for the Champions League. that way we were able to say we broke our record when actually we didn’t. Yeah it was a whole PR stunt. The fee was definitely less than Owen’s. Wether since then it surpassed it we’ll never know. Joelinton’s fee just a dodgy. Especially as the agent was the same as ASM’s (?) who we got relatively cheap. Add the two together and there’s probably logic in there but money was definitely being moved in dodgy ways back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted yesterday at 10:20 Share Posted yesterday at 10:20 12 minutes ago, LFEE said: Joelinton’s fee just a dodgy. Aye, it should have been at least double what he cost, definitely something fishy about that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted yesterday at 16:44 Share Posted yesterday at 16:44 6 hours ago, huss9 said: dont ever explain. was it @Bimpy474? Weren't me mate, I'll lay claim to set penises but not the Mexicans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted yesterday at 17:28 Share Posted yesterday at 17:28 43 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: Weren't me mate, I'll lay claim to set penises but not the Mexicans who started the Giggs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted yesterday at 17:30 Share Posted yesterday at 17:30 1 minute ago, huss9 said: who started the Giggs? Natasha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted yesterday at 17:36 Share Posted yesterday at 17:36 5 minutes ago, STM said: Natasha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted yesterday at 17:39 Share Posted yesterday at 17:39 HTT no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted yesterday at 18:03 Share Posted yesterday at 18:03 23 minutes ago, Kanj said: HTT no? What happened to him, he used to write very interesting things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted yesterday at 18:18 Share Posted yesterday at 18:18 Aye HTT is a miss, very, very long posts but always had something to add to any discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted yesterday at 18:37 Share Posted yesterday at 18:37 He hasn't gone away, he just started writing a reply 6 months ago and is still writing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted yesterday at 20:07 Share Posted yesterday at 20:07 1 hour ago, frankpingel said: Aye HTT is a miss, very, very long posts but always had something to add to any discussion. Words mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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