Guest HTT II Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Thought he was class against City, full of fret and none stop running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: With no replacement? Why does the fee make a difference to you? The fee matters because it will determine what replacement we can get. 10m is not enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, timeEd32 said: The fee matters because it will determine what replacement we can get. 10m is not enough. Well yes, exactly this. We’d need to sell him for £30m to make a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 £15-17m if it meant we paid the extra for Maddison, Paqueta, Harrison, etc and I'd take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 "State of that bench" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I love Miggy’s attitude, personality and effort on the pitch but I don’t think he’s going to transform into a high-assists / goals winger. He suits our high press and he has a good partnership with Bruno. Given that it’s Everton, we shouldn’t be letting him go for anything under £20m, given how appalling they are at business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The whole point of getting a new winger is to provide genuine depth to the squad, it would be silly to get rid of Almiron even if we replace with better, as we'd still be in the same situation as right now. If for example we get Harrison in and Miggy goes out, we're still left with Murphy as backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 54 said: The whole point of getting a new winger is to provide genuine depth to the squad, it would be silly to get rid of Almiron even if we replace with better, as we'd still be in the same situation as right now. If for example we get Harrison in and Miggy goes out, we're still left with Murphy as backup. Almiron, Murphy & Fraser or Harrison, Murphy & Fraser? Clear upgrade imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Almiron, Murphy & Fraser or Harrison, Murphy & Fraser? Clear upgrade imo. The problem being, should Harrison get injured, just like should Miggy get injured now, we'd still be left with Murphy and Fraser Not saying Harrison isn't a better player, as he is, more that were trying to build a good squad, with competitiveness for places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, 54 said: The whole point of getting a new winger is to provide genuine depth to the squad, it would be silly to get rid of Almiron even if we replace with better, as we'd still be in the same situation as right now. If for example we get Harrison in and Miggy goes out, we're still left with Murphy as backup. Yes but we would have a much better starting XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Almiron, Murphy & Fraser or Harrison, Murphy & Fraser? Clear upgrade imo. It’s all guesswork about fees, but my personal view is you should upgrade your worst players first. Murphy, then Fraser, then Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 54 said: The problem being, should Harrison get injured, just like should Miggy get injured now, we'd still be left with Murphy and Fraser Not saying Harrison isn't a better player, as he is, more that were trying to build a good squad, with competitiveness for places. If it's a choice between getting the extra money to stay within FFP and signing a Miggy upgrade, and keeping Miggy at the expense of someone better, surely it's option 1 all day long? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: If it's a choice between getting the extra money to stay within FFP and signing a Miggy upgrade, and keeping Miggy at the expense of someone better, surely it's option 1 all day long? If selling Almiron means we can sign Maddison and Pedro, then yeah. If selling him means we only buy Maddison then no. Our squad is too small/shit for a one in one out policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I would be OK with Miggy going but we would need to sign another winger/AM in addition to what we already need. If it funded getting Diaby and Maddison, sure. But we need to add to our bench not subtract. Love miggy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: If selling Almiron means we can sign Maddison and Pedro, then yeah. If selling him means we only buy Maddison then no. Our squad is too small/shit for a one in one out policy. Step back, take a breath and think about that. You'd be against selling Miggy and getting Madison ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, madras said: Step back, take a breath and think about that. You'd be against selling Miggy and getting Madison ? If it means that’s our entire budget gone, yes. Chris Wood is the reason. We need a striker. obviously in the ideal world we’ll get both, so it’s all a circumstantial conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 We shouldn’t sell for anything less than 20m. Look at the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: If it means that’s our entire budget gone, yes. Chris Wood is the reason. We need a striker. obviously in the ideal world we’ll get both, so it’s all a circumstantial conversation. I'm not so sure. Which is more important, a back up for Wilson, not even a first team starter possibly or someone to go straight into the starting XI and probably adding goals etc from the off ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Also I don't get how it becomes an either/or. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, madras said: Also I don't get how it becomes an either/or. As I say, it’s speculation on what our budget is. If Wilson is now injured we won’t be signing a Maddison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: As I say, it’s speculation on what our budget is. If Wilson is now injured we won’t be signing a Maddison I don't think we'd be signing Madison even if Wilson was 100% fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, madras said: I don't think we'd be signing Madison even if Wilson was 100% fit. But that was the point I was replying to I don’t either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Not a chance I'd sell him now. He offers far more than any other right-winger we've currently got. He'd make a good understudy to someone like Harrison, if we could achieve a signing like that; but tbh I feel fine with him being first choice if we chose to put our 'attacking addition eggs' into a CM basket. He's improved a lot and might yet continue to. Everton would be an awful move for him anyway, he needs someone like Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Shearergol said: If selling Almiron means we can sign Maddison and Pedro, then yeah. If selling him means we only buy Maddison then no. Our squad is too small/shit for a one in one out policy. By all accounts we're looking to bring in two with no outgoings. Let's say that's Pedro and CHO. If selling Miggy then meant we could get one of the more exciting targets you'd still be opposed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Some of these comments are a bit weird about things like how strong or weak is. It’s a shitload stronger than the time last year and was third in the form table second half of the season. That kind of suggests that we’ll do better given a fair wind. We all know it isn’t going to happen overnight. Patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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