TRon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Jenas on MOTD reckons Bruce has asked the full backs to operate further forward. He would get some credit for that if it's actually true. Anyone watching the whole game who can confirm it? Might just be a case of pundits sticking up for good old Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I mean they were far forward, Yedlin usually is anyway and we've had a change of personnel down the left so it's not a direct comparison but yes they were further forward than they typically were last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Jenas on MOTD reckons Bruce has asked the full backs to operate further forward. He would get some credit for that if it's actually true. Anyone watching the whole game who can confirm it? Might just be a case of pundits sticking up for good old Bruce. I watched the whole game and it wasn’t too evident, what is noticeable is that we don’t press teams hence they are getting low possession stats at home, it’s bizzare in today’s modern football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I don’t think we are playing good football at all, Bournemouth we infinitely better at it than us yesterday. They moved it around us easily, we reverted to humping it, for me we got lucky yesterday, others may disagree with that. I thought we deserved the win just. As for humping it, that's why we need Schar and Lejeune back as soon as possible. As well as the other centre halfs have done, they are prone to humping the ball forward with no actual purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Fuck him. He'll be back to blaming Rafa for his side not playing the way he wants when the side inevitably go on poor run of results. One convincing win and it'll be back to 'Hopefully the fans are seeing the style of football I'm trying to bring to wor club'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Players look happy right now because we’ve won a match at home. Bruce has seen some good results last few matches and good on him for sticking to the Rafa created formation. Let’s not forget he’s got a far better foil for Yedlin than Ritchie playing LWB in Willems. Let’s not forget our attack was pure trash last season prior to Rondon getting fit, Almiron signing and Ayoze finally hitting form. Rafa was using out of form Kenedy, Ritchie and Joselu or Unfit Rondon. Hayden was playing horrendous, jonjo was hurt. Etc. Bruce has benefited from having Almiron and the money spent on Joelinton and ASM. Take ASM out and we’d be struggling massively. Bruce has benefited from all the work Rafa has done in defense recruitment and tactics as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 So I’m quietly enjoying the wins and the excitement of some of these matches but I’m not patting Bruce on the back. Ever. He’s not fit to be Newcastle United’s manager and I’ll never be fully back loving things until MA is gone. Bruce will fall apart and the team will get bummed when heads drop in the face of adversity because they lack a true leader and tactical mind like Rafa to keep the direction and everyone on course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 It’s shite like this that does my head in. Almiron in that video How can you not love this guy man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Jenas on MOTD reckons Bruce has asked the full backs to operate further forward. He would get some credit for that if it's actually true. Anyone watching the whole game who can confirm it? Might just be a case of pundits sticking up for good old Bruce. I watched the whole game and it wasn’t too evident, what is noticeable is that we don’t press teams hence they are getting low possession stats at home, it’s bizzare in today’s modern football. Getting players to press as a team requires specialist coaching. Remember Rafa fell out with Mitro purely because he wasn't keen on doing it. I think Bruce is too old school, he probably thinks that's the job of a defensive midfielder like back in the 90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Jenas on MOTD reckons Bruce has asked the full backs to operate further forward. He would get some credit for that if it's actually true. Anyone watching the whole game who can confirm it? Might just be a case of pundits sticking up for good old Bruce. I watched the whole game and it wasn’t too evident, what is noticeable is that we don’t press teams hence they are getting low possession stats at home, it’s bizzare in today’s modern football. Getting players to press as a team requires specialist coaching. Remember Rafa fell out with Mitro purely because he wasn't keen on doing it. I think Bruce is too old school, he probably thinks that's the job of a defensive midfielder like back in the 90s. It takes modern day thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I dont think he's very good, but I will say I didn't expect him to be as patient with ASM Joelinton and Almiron. We've been better at attacking set pieces to be fair. I dont think Antia covered himself in glory with that last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I dont think he's very good, but I will say I didn't expect him to be as patient with ASM Joelinton and Almiron. We've been better at attacking set pieces to be fair. I dont think Antia covered himself in glory with that last year. He has no other players to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I'd expected Atsu and Gayle to be starting by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I dont think he's very good, but I will say I didn't expect him to be as patient with ASM Joelinton and Almiron. We've been better at attacking set pieces to be fair. I dont think Antia covered himself in glory with that last year. Don't think he's been patient at all, he was kicking bottles and tearing his hair out with every missed chance yesterday. I think a manager has to be more supportive publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Bruce needs to keep the Rafa formation and stop the pity me interviews. I will say players seem to like him - team spirit doesn't look bad TBF. Was the same under pardew. Just wait until we go on a bad run with the current formation, then he won't have a clue. Objectively, based on results, Bruce hasn't done too badly so far. Give Rafa the same level of investment and, yeah, we'd probably be doing better. I can't do it, man. Losing Rafa and going to this semi inflated balloon of a man is indefensible. Spending £70m or whatever it was to give him players rather than let a manager of Rafa's calibre spend it as he likes is indefensible. I don't care how many wins he gets, how well we play, where we are in the league. Fuck Bruce. Fuck Ashley. Fuck NUFC until they're gone. Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I'd expected Atsu and Gayle to be starting by now. Nah, theyre not ‘his’ players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Was it Chelsea where Gayle came on and looked like a pub player for 5 minutes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Was it Chelsea where Gayle came on and looked like a pub player for 5 minutes? fuck me man, he's been injured for months and probabaly isnt even match fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I’m saying that’s why he’s not being used or started yet. Clearly not fit (or good) enough to be playing at the minute. Though why he’s on the bench ahead of Muto is strange if he’s still not there yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just as Rafa didn't become a shite manager overnight for a string of bad results last season, Bruce hasn't become a good one either. Credit where it's due, he's got this team singing a tune at the moment 2 points off 5th after almost a third of the season is decent. However, I gave Pardew the benefit of the doubt after that 5th place finish and we all know how that ended. Even if this vein of form continues over the season and we finish top 10 Bruce will inevitably return to type and have us tumbling back down to earth. As loki679[/member] said before, it's all meaningless anyway when the height of ambition is 17th, pointless with Ashley in charge, a top 10 finish will see a barren summer as we'll be deemed a good enough squad to carry on as we were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I’ll never look at him in the same light as someone like Keegan or Rafa, but that’s on me. It doesn’t have to be that way with the club manager. In fact it makes life easier to be a bit more removed from things. At this point in time it has to be said he’s doing ok. What’s impressed me is that we’ve picked up points when we haven’t clicked at all up front yet. It may never happen but if it ever does we could well end up having a decent season given that so many normally half decent or very good teams seem to be having stinkers this season (similar to what happened the year we finished 5th) Going back to last year, some on here, possibly quite a few actually were slagging off the idea of having Brendan Rodgers as coach when he was linked. How wrong that sentiment turned out to be... basically at the end of the day, maybe we know far less about football managers than we think and we’ve been wrong about Bruce. It’s a possibility. Who on here would admit to that if we do end up doing well this season? Or is he damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I dont think he's very good, but I will say I didn't expect him to be as patient with ASM Joelinton and Almiron. We've been better at attacking set pieces to be fair. I dont think Antia covered himself in glory with that last year. The club spent 'big money' on those three. He won't be allowed to drop them thank goodness. He for sure would have been playing Atsu, Gayle and Ritchie as the front three otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I’ll never look at him in the same light as someone like Keegan or Rafa, but that’s on me. It doesn’t have to be that way with the club manager. In fact it makes life easier to be a bit more removed from things. At this point in time it has to be said he’s doing ok. What’s impressed me is that we’ve picked up points when we haven’t clicked at all up front yet. It may never happen but if it ever does we could well end up having a decent season given that so many normally half decent or very good teams seem to be having stinkers this season (similar to what happened the year we finished 5th) Going back to last year, some on here, possibly quite a few actually were slagging off the idea of having Brendan Rodgers as coach when he was linked. How wrong that sentiment turned out to be... basically at the end of the day, maybe we know far less about football managers than we think and we’ve been wrong about Bruce. It’s a possibility. Who on here would admit to that if we do end up doing well this season? Or is he damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t? I think you answered yourself there, Bruce is managing NUFC during a perfect storm, just like Pardew did. Rating him based on one season is akin to saying Pardew was a good manager. Rafa, Keegan, Bobby all did it over several seasons. He would get any praise he deserved but I wouldn't change my opinion of him based on one season vs 300-odd previous games in the PL, consistency is the key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I’ll never look at him in the same light as someone like Keegan or Rafa, but that’s on me. It doesn’t have to be that way with the club manager. In fact it makes life easier to be a bit more removed from things. At this point in time it has to be said he’s doing ok. What’s impressed me is that we’ve picked up points when we haven’t clicked at all up front yet. It may never happen but if it ever does we could well end up having a decent season given that so many normally half decent or very good teams seem to be having stinkers this season (similar to what happened the year we finished 5th) Going back to last year, some on here, possibly quite a few actually were slagging off the idea of having Brendan Rodgers as coach when he was linked. How wrong that sentiment turned out to be... basically at the end of the day, maybe we know far less about football managers than we think and we’ve been wrong about Bruce. It’s a possibility. Who on here would admit to that if we do end up doing well this season? Or is he damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t? What does Midhat think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 We will turn back to shit again, he defaulted to Rafa’s tactics when whatever it was he was trying to do failed miserably. CBS won’t score forever, and ASM is a wildcard that teams are scared off atm. Until they figure that out, which they will. I'm not sure about that you know! I mean they might show him towards goal because they know he'll miss but he's that skillful, quick and elusive that i don't think it'll be that easy. Look at Zaha - most of the defenders in the PL have played against him plenty of times and he still skins them. Reece James got the better of him at the weekend but it doesn't happen often. Bournemouth have been good defensively this season and ASM absolutely took the piss. That combination of pace and skill is so hard to get to grips with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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