jackyboy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Won't be long before some of the better players are being sold by MA as has always happened in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Would be interesting to see how he reacts when he’s treated the same way as other managers have been by MA and LC in successive transfer windows. Will he have the balls to kick up a fuss like Rafa, or will he dedicate wins to “Mike,” like Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 https://twitter.com/lee_ryder/status/1203665822134284289 He has changed one player which is more or less forced on him because of Carroll's injury problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Manager is proving his critics wrong after a desperate start on Tyneside When Steve Bruce looked towards the jubilant travelling support at Bramall Lane on Thursday night and raised a hand, it was like a couple making up after a row. “Are we OK? Yes, great, we’re OK,” he might have said. There was a roar from the 3,000 Newcastle United fans in the HE Barnes Lower Stand. It appeared that Bruce and the Newcastle fans had had their first real moment. It was all about the contrast. More than two months earlier, after a 5-0 defeat away to Leicester City, the aeroplane from East Midlands airport had been silent. At the front Bruce was incandescent. Sean Longstaff had called the performance “f***ing embarrassing”; Andy Carroll had called for his new teammates to hang their heads in shame. Seventy-four days had passed since Bruce’s appointment as the successor to Rafa Benitez. It had been incorrectly reported that he was 13th choice. He was not, but nor was he the first. Although the defeat at the King Power Stadium was not quite breaking point — the controversial owner Mike Ashley is actually patient with his managers — it felt like a low. After seven Premier League games and one EFL Cup tie, there had been only one victory. It was a desperate time and Bruce used a desperate measure. He called his players out. “It was a complete surrender,” he told the nation on television straight after the defeat. “It was nowhere near what is required. “Too many felt sorry for themselves. The team has to play with a bit of determination, passion and heart, before we talk about tactics. Unfortunately I can’t defend it.” It felt huge as soon as he said it. It was harsh and it was in the public domain. The next day off was cancelled and all first-team players were called into training. There were talks between managerial staff and players to clear the air — something had to change. Newcastle had started the previous season under Benitez badly, but the club felt more cohesive. After seven league games under Bruce, Newcastle had five points and were second bottom. It was hard to reconcile that fury and fragmentation as Bruce waved to the club’s fans on Thursday night. “Last man standing?” he laughed. “I just wanted to say thanks to them, they came down in their thousands against Aston Villa and Sheffield United and I’m delighted we’ve given them something to shout about. I’m enjoying the challenge.” It is important to assess the sequence of results that followed Leicester and Bruce’s impact, his attempt to move the team away from their reliance on Benitez’s work. Changing tactics, moving away from the resolute three central defenders, remains a long-term desire, but he has tempered that ambition for now. It is evolution, not revolution. He dropped Jonjo Shelvey for the subsequent game against Manchester United after the 5-0 defeat and was rewarded with a goal from Matty Longstaff, the Geordie youngster making his debut, and more importantly, a victory. That bought time. Longstaff has hardly played since and the ever-moving landscape of a footballer has meant that Shelvey has gone from looking like his career was ending at the club to scoring three times in the last five games. There have been four victories in eight games since the Leicester defeat, with two draws and two losses. In those games Bruce and his Newcastle side have taken 14 points, rising to 11th on Thursday evening after the victory over Chris Wilder’s side, with 19 points in total. Curiously it was January 19 before that total was reached last season, in game 23, after a 3-0 win over Cardiff City. “In your real tough times, the only thing you can do as a manager is say, ‘How can I get them to react?’” said Bruce. “We needed a reaction to it and it can’t be another performance like that. Otherwise, everybody is in trouble. I think that’s when you earn your dough.” Players are buying into his methods. There is little mention of Benitez any more. It is said by those inside the training ground that a siege mentality emerged after that loss. Bruce has made much of the inclusivity of spirit in that key part of the club, where the mood can impact upon the team. “For me, the working environment is the most important,” Bruce said. “From the press lads to the caretakers to the people who clean to the chefs, to everyone concerned. “I want them to come into work and enjoy coming into work, and that goes for the players too. If you enjoy coming to work you’re going to get the best out of people “The players have bought into what we’ve tried to do. We’ve still got a long way to go, we’ve still got to be a little bit more fluid at the top end of the pitch, but we’ll keep working on that. “The most important thing for me is trying to recreate a spirit. The spirit amongst the players and the way they’re playing and their attitude has delighted me. They carried it on against Sheffield United after running a million miles against Manchester City. “When do I start feeling vindicated? That doesn’t interest me. I’m not looking for any Brownie points like that. Listen, I’ve been given a wonderful opportunity. I’ve said that from day one and I hope I can prove a few people wrong but there is still a long way to go.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/how-steve-bruce-used-public-humiliation-to-rally-players-and-win-over-newcastle-fans-tjjqhbckr Ashley has won. 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geordie john Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Close the curtains, lock the doors, switch off the lights........ ...there is no point any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Wonder what he’s considering doing to make this a bit less shit - or is he just thinking about inhaling his half-time selection box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 John Carver used to say "Listen," a lot. Was quite annoying. That's my take-away from that batch of rent-a-quotes. Whatever, Steve. Glad he's enjoying his challenge. Wish I was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 He's got the press lads onside. That was my takeaway from that article, although it didn't really need to be spelled out. Nice to see it spelled out anyway though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The press has been on his side from Day One. The majority of the media decided the supporters were out to get him from the get-go; notwishstanding the fact that the travelling support at pre-season games were asking for a wave. There's been a bit of 'hearty underdog' flavour to the majority of Bruce coverage since he arrived. It feels like this forum is literally the only corner of the fanbase which is giving him any sustained level of grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Martin 'fucking' Hardy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9th....just saying . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Gets results by luck more than judgement. He’s fucking useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9th....just saying . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Gets results by luck more than judgement. He’s fucking useless. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The press has been on his side from Day One. The majority of the media decided the supporters were out to get him from the get-go; notwishstanding the fact that the travelling support at pre-season games were asking for a wave. There's been a bit of 'hearty underdog' flavour to the majority of Bruce coverage since he arrived. It feels like this forum is literally the only corner of the fanbase which is giving him any sustained level of grief. I’ve honestly not met 1 fan who rates him. Everyone knows that if we get results it’s down to luck and whatever Rafa training methods are still in their mind. Shocking that managers like him get put up for jobs at clubs like ours and backed by the media, yet theirs not a fucking chance they would have any of them at one of their favoured clubs, heck they even hound out the good ones who have a bad spell of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9th....just saying . Losing 1-0 at home to Southampton. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Jammy cunt. Don’t know how he’s doing it, but he isn’t doing it intentionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Adaptability: 1 Determination: 1 Level of discipline: 1 Luck: 2000 Man management: 1 Motivating: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 As much as I dislike Bruce you cant put it all down to luck. He deserves credit for how well we're doing at the minute. Having said that, I don't like, don't trust him and I'm absolutely certain that his time here will turn to utter shit and he'll end it with the sack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 His subs won us the game today. Deserves some credit. Accepting that does not mean accepting hes a more decorated manager than Rafa. It doesn't mean accepting the way the club is run and it doesn't mean you're an Ashley apologist. From all the games we've won recently, this one he deserves the most credit. Maybe not something you'd like to see for the reasons above, but fair play. Its time to put some negativity aside and enjoy what we can for this moment in time, because it could be worse, far worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Amazing how many fans want to give Bruce credit, but still don't trust him to turn things around in the long run. They must hate Bruce more than the critics really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 His subs have been better recently tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Amazing how many fans want to give Bruce credit, but still don't trust him to turn things around in the long run. He has a long career we can reference. Amazing how people don't realise that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The football is dire but we’re somehow getting results, suppose that’ll do :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The football is dire but we’re somehow getting results, suppose that’ll do :/ It'll certainly do for me, I'm not paying £20 a game to watch that shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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