Yorkie Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 An objectively rubbish season overseen by an objectively unsatisfactory manager who objectively represents the club's latest regression... yet still defending him to the hilt whenever an opportunity presents itself to do so. What do you know, folks get emotional when you've got disingenuous, enabling chancers at the head of day to day club operations. Quite how there's a need to endlessly argue the semantics of the criticism every time someone says something a bit OTT, I really don't know. Bruce contributes massively to the zombification of the club, just like Pardew did. Let people hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 So every player who fucks over a club to go to another club or any manager who does similar is shithouse of a human being? The Sheff Wed thing was snide but you're lying if you say it doesn't happen all time in football. The way Bruce has gone on in his professional career? Nah, that doesn't happen all the time in football. Shit. House. Of. A. Man. It happens all the time. [emoji38] Players fuck off clubs. Manager fuck off clubs. Trying to get out of contracts etc. Why you carrying on like he's only done it once? He's notorious for it and has been for years. See here: Dickhead move from Bruce putting pressure on through the media like that, keep it all in house surely. "Talks still ongoing, nothing to report" would suffice. I've given Bruce nowhere near the level of stick that others have on here, but he's a fine one to talk about commitment the way he treated Sheffield Wednesday, particularly when he was having a hard time on a personal level. Missed this discussion at the time but just wanted to point out for anyone not aware that Bruce's questionable loyalty goes back a lot further than last year. Take this article from 2011 when he was slagging off Bent for joining Villa, he already had a long list of instances where he'd fucked his club around to serve himself. Sunderland’s Bruce can’t lecture Bent about loyalty By Mitch Phillips January 20, 2011 Much-travelled Sunderland manager Steve Bruce either has a very short memory or the biggest brass neck in football but either way his claim that his club had been let down by Darren Bent’s disloyal move to Aston Villa takes some swallowing. “It’s hugely disappointing and the players, our supporters and the club as a whole have every right to feel massively let down,” he complained after Bent’s transfer. Moving from a club in sixth place to one above the drop zone only on goal difference might look odd at first glance, certainly if Bent’s justification for the move about joining a “big club” is to believed, but Bruce is surely the last man to start bleating about loyalty. As a centre half winning rave reviews with Norwich City back in the 1980s, Bruce told anyone who would listen that he wanted to go to Manchester United. When he became a manager of Wigan Athletic, he was so loyal that he walked out after two months to go to Crystal Palace. It was Steve Bruce who left Palace four months into his first season to take over Birmingham City. And surely that was…Steve Bruce who then left Birmingham in acrimonious circumstances to return to Wigan, who he then left to join Sunderland. Should Alex Ferguson decide to finally retire anytime soon and Manchester United were to enquire about Bruce’s availability to succeed him, how would his loyalty to Sunderland’s “players, supporters and club as a whole” fare then? The fact is that, much as the fans want it to be otherwise, modern footballers have no more loyalty to their clubs than the average till operator does to their supermarket. If a shop up the road offers a bigger salary then off they will go without a second thought for the customers and colleagues left behind. So it is with Bent, and all the others whose negotiations are carried out by agents with only one target – get as much money for their client as they can. Schalke 04 boss Felix Magath said this week that power had shifted too far in favour of the players and suggested that those who try to break their contracts should be banned from playing international or Champions League football. It is an interesting suggestion, albeit one highly unlikely to ever come to fruition. Magath is trying to shut the stable door not just after the horse has bolted but after it has disappeared over the horizon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? I have NEVER called Bruce a Shitehouse . I do call him out as a very poor manager with very little or no tactical skills. The stats are there Samp. It's been an awful season. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 And the fact Bruce been so incredibly disloyal throughout his own career and has the temerity to publically lecture a local kid on loyalty, that's another one to add to the wanker pile. All to serve his own case and help his relationship with Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 As a manager, one of the only times Stevie was loyal to his club, ironically, was when his 'boyhood club' came calling back in 2004. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 And the fact Bruce been so incredibly disloyal throughout his own career and has the temerity to publically lecture a local kid on loyalty, that's another one to add to the wanker pile. All to serve his own case and help his relationship with Mike Ashley. Bang on Polic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Awful on a human level, heard he shits on people's doorsteps and lobs greased bacon at elderly people's windows from his Merc the rancid goiter. Also, heard through the grapevine, he's an appalling manager with zero tactical acumen who relies on individual "magic" to see him through to an underwhelming 40+ points tally...that is, when he isn't being relegated with three different teams... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Awful on a human level, heard he shits on people's doorsteps and lobs greased bacon at elderly people's windows from his Merc the rancid goiter. Also, heard through the grapevine, he's an appalling manager with zero tactical acumen who relies on individual "magic" to see him through to an underwhelming 40+ points tally...that is, when he isn't being relegated with three different teams... First point is clearly bang on. Second point does not tally up with what Steve mcmanaman and Graeme souness told me the other day mind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Was it a pattern throughout their careers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Well a lot of those could easily be considered a shitehouse of a human being, yeah. I was hoping you'd list more manager though tbh. Remind me about Silva - I know he left Hull when they got relegated, but wasn't he sacked from Watford and Everton? Where's the comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Figo sniding Barca to go to Real. He denied it in the press a few weeks before it happens. Is he a shithouse of a human being? Alex Mcleish fucking over Birmingham to go their hated rivals Villa. He quit via email. Shithouse of a human being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Well a lot of those could easily be considered a shitehouse of a human being, yeah. I was hoping you'd list more manager though tbh. Remind me about Silva - I know he left Hull when they got relegated, but wasn't he sacked from Watford and Everton? Where's the comparison? He was courting Everton for ages and their form went to total shit over a few months. 5 points from 30 games. He didn't cover himself in glory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Well a lot of those could easily be considered a shitehouse of a human being, yeah. I was hoping you'd list more manager though tbh. Remind me about Silva - I know he left Hull when they got relegated, but wasn't he sacked from Watford and Everton? Where's the comparison? He was courting Everton for ages and their form went to total shit over a few months. 5 points from 30 games. He didn't cover himself in glory. Shitehouse of a human too then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Well a lot of those could easily be considered a shitehouse of a human being, yeah. I was hoping you'd list more manager though tbh. Remind me about Silva - I know he left Hull when they got relegated, but wasn't he sacked from Watford and Everton? Where's the comparison? He was courting Everton for ages and their form went to total shit over a few months. 5 points from 30 games. He didn't cover himself in glory. Shitehouse of a human too then But we don't know what Marco Silva is like. He was snide in his career, and should've handled it differently (as Bruce should've). But he may be a lovely guy to his friends and family. He might donate 20% of his wages to Charity. We don't know what he's like as a human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Figo sniding Barca to go to Real. He denied it in the press a few weeks before it happens. Is he a shithouse of a human being? Alex Mcleish fucking over Birmingham to go their hated rivals Villa. He quit via email. Shithouse of a human being? You reference one of the biggest acts of shithousery in the history of world football, and ask if the player was a shitehouse? Hard to avoid the notion you’re arguing for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Semantics-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Nobody knows what he is like as a human being in his day to day life. The comment is clearly OTT. Why do you feel the constant need to defend him on it though? Because the hatred on here is too much. Shithouse of a human being is a horrible insult. And we're talking about a football manager. Not liking him and wanting him gone is normal. Calling him a shithouse of a human being is not. Samp, have you got any statistics to back up your argument? Thought not. Answer my question. Surprise surprise! Samp is the minority AGAIN. Do you ever question yourself why that is? What question? Is every player or manager who fucks over a club like Bruce did with Sheff Wed (and there are plenty) a shitehouse of a human being? Share some examples, let's comment on them individually. Cabaye refused to play for us. Shitehouse of a human being? Dan Gosling fucked off Everton to come us. Shitehouse? Peter Odemwingie saga? Gabriel Heinze trying to snide Man Utd to go to Liverpool? Dider Domi went AWOL. Mahrez went AWOL. Anelka, Payet, Costa, Pierre van Hooijdonk all went AWOL. Marco Silva saga? Is he a shitehouse of a human being? Tons of examples. Well a lot of those could easily be considered a shitehouse of a human being, yeah. I was hoping you'd list more manager though tbh. Remind me about Silva - I know he left Hull when they got relegated, but wasn't he sacked from Watford and Everton? Where's the comparison? He was courting Everton for ages and their form went to total shit over a few months. 5 points from 30 games. He didn't cover himself in glory. Shitehouse of a human too then But we don't know what Marco Silva is like. He was snide in his career, and should've handled it differently (as Bruce should've). But he may be a lovely guy to his friends and family. He might donate 20% of his wages to Charity. We don't know what he's like as a human being. You understand context, right? Honestly, I really don't understand why you feel the need to defend this. What does it even matter to you how people feel about Bruce as a person? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Good persons can make bad choices and bad persons can make good choices. At the end of the day Bruce is a shit manager. Couldn't care less how he is behind the scene with his close friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Met Bruce once, outside Harry's in Newcastle. Seemed a decent fella. Think he managed the mackems at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 And the fact Bruce been so incredibly disloyal throughout his own career and has the temerity to publically lecture a local kid on loyalty, that's another one to add to the w***** pile. All to serve his own case and help his relationship with Mike Ashley. Very much this. It also pisses me off that he has the gall to play the Geordie card nowadays, when he's turned his Minecraft nose up at us plenty of times in the past. He's an utter fraud in my opinion, who couldn't get out of Newcastle quick enough in the very unlikely scenario of him being offered the Man Utd job. A mate of mine knows one of the first team squad very well, and the feeling in the dressing room is that although he's one of the lads, they view him as a bit of a joke, especially when it comes to training and tactics. Which will come as no surprise to anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 And the fact Bruce been so incredibly disloyal throughout his own career and has the temerity to publically lecture a local kid on loyalty, that's another one to add to the w***** pile. All to serve his own case and help his relationship with Mike Ashley. Very much this. It also pisses me off that he has the gall to play the Geordie card nowadays, when he's turned his Minecraft nose up at us plenty of times in the past. He's an utter fraud in my opinion, who couldn't get out of Newcastle quick enough in the very unlikely scenario of him being offered the Man Utd job. A mate of mine knows one of the first team squad very well, and the feeling in the dressing room is that although he's one of the lads, they view him as a bit of a joke, especially when it comes to training and tactics. Which will come as no surprise to anyone. I can 100% believe this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The one and only time I have personally met Steve Bruce was in a kebab shop. He come in after me, but being the current Newcastle United manager, I thought it would be disrespectful of me to let him wait before me to place his order, so I said “go ahead Mr Bruce, I can wait”, he replied “thank fuck for that, I’m starving” and winked at me. He made his order and I then made mine, he sat down opposite our table and when I got to mine, he took one look at my kebab and just grabbed it off me and said “yours looks better, I’m having that”. Naturally I was left speechless. Outside afterwards while having a tab, he come over to me, pulled out a marker pen and just signed my jacket, a rather expensive Berghaus, and said “that’s for the kebab son”. I wouldn’t mind, when I got home to take a look, he had just signed it SB. It still hasn't washed out to this day. He seemed canny enough though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Seems legit You should write it up for The Mag and they might even print it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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