Cronky Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: What's he good at? I.e. what remarkable quality does he have which makes him a £15m [whatever position you think he is]? Never been convinced by the 'not a striker' argument. I think he probably IS one. Just one who isn't capable of playing in the PL. He'd probably hit double figures playing up front in a reasonable Championship side imo. What he's good at is his reading of the game, and his decision-making about what to do in possession. Trouble is, he's slow off the mark, and his first touch is dodgy. It's like his body isn't allowing him to do what he sees that he ought to do. With the pace of the Premiership, he therefore always looks vulnerable to losing the ball. I was ready to write him off a few weeks ago, but he's shown a remarkable resilience and an ability to adapt, mainly by using his strength. He is improving, because he does have both determination and brains. How far that's going to take him, I'm not sure. Edited April 5, 2021 by Cronky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, sturla said: He is a good player Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Cronky said: What he's good at is his reading of the game, and his decision-making about what to do in possession. Trouble is, he's slow off the mark, and his first touch is dodgy. It's like his body isn't allowing him to do what he sees that he ought to do. With the pace of the Premiership, he therefore always looks vulnerable to losing the ball. I was ready to write him off a few weeks ago, but he's shown a remarkable resilience and an ability to adapt, mainly by using his strength. He is improving, because he does have both determination and brains. How far that's going to take him, I'm not sure. Nope, nope, nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Joelinton is a total enigma, he's probably a really nice chap and I feel for him leaving Nagelsmann to come to work for Bruce and this shit show of a club, but he's never going to turn it around here unless the club is sold and a manager takes him under his wing and spends a ton of time working on his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 He did well by his standards yesterday and I'd probably give him a chance if there was a change of manager/takeover but he just doesn't look like any sort of footballer. His touches are dreadful and he seems so slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 He's mid table Championshit standard. As many have said before his transfer reeks of some sort of tax dodge/fiddle for Ashley and the agents involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Had some involvement in all goals today. Hopefully can continue doing so, doubt it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I maintain under a good coach he could be decent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gdm said: I maintain under a good coach he could be decent He won't make it at this level as long as his dinner comes out his dirtbox. Edited April 17, 2021 by Candi_Hills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, gdm said: I maintain under a good coach he could be decent And under communism I could be an astronaut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aiston said: Had some involvement in all goals today. Hopefully can continue doing so, doubt it mind. Nope. Just no goal instinct. Even when it was 0-0 and Murphy hit a shot that was parried by the keeper, a genuine striker would have been sniffing for the loose ball, Joelinton was back on his heels and taken by surprise that it came back into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, TRon said: Nope. Just no goal instinct. Even when it was 0-0 and Murphy hit a shot that was parried by the keeper, a genuine striker would have been sniffing for the loose ball, Joelinton was back on his heels and taken by surprise that it came back into play. He lost the ball countless times in dangerous positions also especially the second half. Hopefully Wilson getting more game time will see him on the bench very soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, TRon said: Nope. Just no goal instinct. Even when it was 0-0 and Murphy hit a shot that was parried by the keeper, a genuine striker would have been sniffing for the loose ball, Joelinton was back on his heels and taken by surprise that it came back into play. Yeah I noticed that. Kinda summed up his lack of instinct. He might not have got to it but you can bet Wilson is snipping at that half chance. Joe's on another wavelength. It's the stuff immediately after his goal you want to see more of especially, mind. He might never be a poacher but he's capable of bursting past a defender and getting a dig away. So infrequently pulls it off though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 One of the worst players I’ve ever seen play for us, but well in Joe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Playing upfront, there are some very basic things you can do to guarantee at least a couple of goals a season and standing on the keeper at corners is one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Not as good as Kitson, Shola, or Andreas Andersson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Pons Alias said: Not as good as Kitson, Shola, or Andreas Andersson. He makes Kitson look like Marco Van Basten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 17 hours ago, Pons Alias said: Not as good as Kitson, Shola, or Andreas Andersson. Andreas Andersson? Too far. Should have stopped at Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, TRon said: Andreas Andersson? Too far. Should have stopped at Shola. Andersson was much better than Joelinton. Statistically, artistically and hairstylistically. Joelinton is the worst centre forward I've ever seen play for us, beating the likes of Riviere, Guivarc'h and Chopra. The man has no qualities at all. - He can't head - He's weak as water - He's not quick - He has no instinct in the box - He's shite at holding it up - He's literally never hit one clean shot with his instep before - He usually passes to them - He has a touch like Barry Bennel - And he's got the shittest most disinterested attitude we've seen in years If we'd brought him in on a free I'd still think the deal needed invetsigating. Edited April 18, 2021 by Candi_Hills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Candi_Hills said: Andersson was much better than Joelinton. Statistically, artistically and hairstylistically. Joelinton is the worst centre forward I've ever seen play for us, beating the likes of Riviere, Guivarc'h and Chopra. The man has no qualities at all. - He can't head - He's weak as water - He's not quick - He has no instinct in the box - He's shite at holding it up - He's literally never hit one clean shot with his instep before - He usually passes to them - He has a touch like Barry Bennel - And he's got the shittest most disinterested attitude we've seen in years If we'd brought him in on a free I'd still think the deal needed invetsigating. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I agree, apart from I think Riviere was worse. Only slightly though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Doctor Zaius said: I agree, apart from I think Riviere was worse. Only slightly though. I've just checked the stats. Can't believe we fielded him 26 times. I honestly thought he played twice and then we hid him out of embarrassment. Aye, he was indeed shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Candi_Hills said: Andersson was much better than Joelinton. Statistically, artistically and hairstylistically. Joelinton is the worst centre forward I've ever seen play for us, beating the likes of Riviere, Guivarc'h and Chopra. The man has no qualities at all. - He can't head - He's weak as water - He's not quick - He has no instinct in the box - He's shite at holding it up - He's literally never hit one clean shot with his instep before - He usually passes to them - He has a touch like Barry Bennel - And he's got the shittest most disinterested attitude we've seen in years If we'd brought him in on a free I'd still think the deal needed invetsigating. Agree about the hairstyle, can't recall much else about him. Didn't he score like 2 goals in his entire time here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) From wiki, and not taking into account minutes on the field or shitness of the team at the time: Andreas 4 in 27 1 in 6.75 Big Jow 5 in 65 1 in 13 Riviere 1 in 26 1 in 26 Mitro 14 in 65 (including a season in Div 2) 1 in 4.6 Tomasson 3 in 23 1 in 7.6 Kitson 10 in 36 1 in 3.6 Shola 79 in 397 1 in 5 Guivarc'h 1 in 4 1 in 4 Chopra 1 in 21 1 in 21 (lol) Luque 1 in 21 1 in 21 (lol) And just for comparison, a few fondly remembered players who didn't fare that much better. Kluivert 6 in 25 1 in 4.1 Big dunc 8 in 30 1 in 3.75 Sibierski 8 in 39 1 in 4.87 Edited April 18, 2021 by Candi_Hills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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