KetsbaiaIsBald Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unbelievable said: Based on what rule could the FA possibly block an outgoing transfer? Fair market value. So they cant block as such. But they can say that if we were getting 40 million (for the sake of argument) that not all of that would apply to the FFP calc. Given that this is a transaction between related parties. Edit so maybe pizza fella was right that it should have been Friday as we were waiting on the PL. EOW nothing happened and they closed shop for the weekend. And we just thought fuck them we want Barnes in the US. (I do have an active imagination. I also thought the hearse could be to promote a film. So my speculation matters little) Edited July 25, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Not sure how they could when we’re arguably selling at below market value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Would be funny if the investigated and ending up making Saudi pay more for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Unbelievable said: So what’s happening with this deal then..? Probably sharing media teams 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 https://news.sky.com/story/tottenham-hotspur-owner-joe-lewis-indicted-over-insider-trading-scheme-12927500 What was that about Maxi’s transfer to Saudi? Say it with your chest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 When you look at the values being asked for McTominay, Gallacher and Maguire... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 What the hell is happening with this transfer? Premier league dragging their heals ratifying the deal. £30m is obviously a fair price in today's market, possibly even a bit low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 25/07/2023 at 23:13, Unbelievable said: Not sure how they could when we’re arguably selling at below market value. Yeah it’s daft really when you consider other transfers which have gone through to Saudi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Was any European clubs interested? Surely we could have got market value from a European team and avoided this hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Tina Tooner said: Was any European clubs interested? Surely we could have got market value from a European team and avoided this hassle. Not at this moment plus the salary on offer won’t be matched by any European team. Not sure what the hassle is either mind, the media hysteria or the boring crying from other clubs can just be ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 The delay is annoying but there’s no chance of it being blocked. We just need it done so we can bring other people in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) As long as we are sure that it gets done by the end of the window, can't we spend that money in the mean time? Not a cash flow issue as mentioned before. FFP calculations is not a day to day thing. Edited July 27, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Erikse said: As long as we are sure that it gets done by the end of the window, can't we spend that money in the mean time? Not a cash flow issue as mentioned before. FFP calculations is not a day to day thing. Yeah we could but the risk of it falling through means it’s not worth it until it’s done. We can be pretty sure Livaramento would have been done by now if a few could have been agreed regardless of this transfer. I think transfer fees this summer are extremely high and we are having to be patient. I think we’ve quite clear in the fact we will not pay more than we deem a player to be worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I agree they will not block it, but I can't help thinking they are dragging it on just to prevent us getting an incoming player now rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This cunt signed for the Saudi’s yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, Bally21 said: I agree they will not block it, but I can't help thinking they are dragging it on just to prevent us getting an incoming player now rather than later. I absolutely loathe how the premier league have stacked the rules against us but at this point we have nothing to suggest the league is the hold up here. If they were, I’m pretty sure we would know about this by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: I absolutely loathe how the premier league have stacked the rules against us but at this point we have nothing to suggest the league is the hold up here. If they were, I’m pretty sure we would know about this by now. You're probably right, I just have a bit of an "everyone is against us" outlook at the moment. In some ways we as a club (fans, players, coaching staff, owners, etc) need a bit of an us against them attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 If you look at some other deals they are taking a while to go through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: If you look at some other deals they are taking a while to go through. Yes but we don't apply the same logic and evidence when it comes to our incoming and out going transfers. Everything must be done NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 So, I know it’s been mentioned this and that here but I have no idea what’s been correct and not. Say we this goes through for about 30m? How much leeway does this give us extra? Been on vacay so I haven’t been paying close attention tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: So, I know it’s been mentioned this and that here but I have no idea what’s been correct and not. Say we this goes through for about 30m? How much leeway does this give us extra? Been on vacay so I haven’t been paying close attention tbh. Quite a lot according to most people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Quite a lot according to most people. I’ve seen figures mentioned between 80-100m. Could it really be this much extra? Edited July 27, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Ikon said: I’ve seen figures mentioned between 80-100m. Could it really be this much extra? If so then I would blow it on two top quality permanent signings and a loan (backup CB) I’ll try find the tweet on it from a week or so ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: I’ve seen figures mentioned between 80-100m. Could it really be this much extra? Here it is, again not to sure how accurate: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ikon said: I’ve seen figures mentioned between 80-100m. Could it really be this much extra? It’s profit*5, so assuming Maxi was still on the books for approx 6.5m at a fee of 30m it would be approx 117.5m, HOWEVER if we were to spend this all at once and assuming we are at the limit of FFP we would then need to make the same profit every year for the next five years (seling other players for considerable profit or through commercial revenue increases) before we could even think about further incomings. So really a better way to think about it is it allows to bring spending forward. Edited July 27, 2023 by Unbelievable Typo and clarification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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