Wolfcastle Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 If that's close to the case there can be no arguement about selling. Mind if that had been on The Manager/Champ Manager/SWOS back in the day I don't think I could have been arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: If that's close to the case there can be no arguement about selling. Mind if that had been on The Manager/Champ Manager/SWOS back in the day I don't think I could have been arsed. FM ’You have sold a player for £100m, the board have added £1m of this to the transfer budget’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Equally, if the players you go on to buy don't work out, there's a drag on what you can do later. Amortisation works both ways - you still have to recover their costs at some point. E.g. if you buy someone for £100m on a 5 year contract, you're down £20m a year for each of those years in the future. Plus their wages. Unless you're confident your income will go up by more than that each year to cover it all, it's not some magic bullet. So, it's only good if you're in expansion mode. We must be pretty confident we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Stifler said: FM ’You have sold a player for £100m, the board have added £1m of this to the transfer budget’. Sounds like the Mike Ashley expansion pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Wonder if there’ has been some confluence with ASM not finalising his move and Fabinho’s deal slowing down too. If Liverpool are very vocal in their protest against any fee we might receive, perhaps PIF have decided to put the brakes on an extremely good deal for an over the hill Fabinho. Share the pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Liverpool are some whinge bags Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Far too complicated all this accounting stuff. Should be simply no staggered payments allowed. If the club has the cold hard cash available they can spend it however they like. If the pots empty the pots empty. Would instantly stop teams bending the rules to get players they shouldn't realistically be able to get. Kind of agree with fair market value on sponsorships, but it could be based on last year's results rather than 'historic value' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Far too complicated all this accounting stuff. Should be simply no staggered payments allowed. If the club has the cold hard cash available they can spend it however they like. If the pots empty the pots empty. This would likely make things even more difficult than they currently are for us in terms of FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Unbelievable said: It’s profit*5, so assuming Maxi was still on the books for approx 6.5m at a fee of 30m it would be approx 117.5m, HOWEVER if we were to spend this all at once and assuming we are at the limit of FFP we would then need to make the same profit every year for the next five years (seling other players for considerable profit or through commercial revenue increases) before we could even think about further incomings. So really a better way to think about it is it allows to bring spending forward. The bolded part of this gets ignored by an alarming number of people. Including those paid to write about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Isnt there also a wages to turnover percentage rule to abide by as well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, madras said: Isnt there also a wages to turnover percentage rule to abide by as well ? Only in EFL L1 and L2 I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 In the PL it's 90% this year, 80% next year, then 70% thereafter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Rich said: In the PL it's 90% this year, 80% next year, then 70% thereafter. Last accounts we were above 90% weren't we ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, madras said: Isnt there also a wages to turnover percentage rule to abide by as well ? It’s a new UEFA regulation “Clubs are expected to be allowed to spend 90% of their income in 2023-24, reducing to 80% in 2024-25 and 70% a year later.” https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60973786.amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, madras said: Last accounts we were above 90% weren't we ? Aye, 94.6%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, madras said: Last accounts we were above 90% weren't we ? 95% I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Wouldn’t worry too much about the wages, our revenue as we know was destroyed by Ashley plus we had a lot of dead wood. As contracts expire and revenue increases it will become less of an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 This not happening then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dokko said: This not happening then? I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Don't see why it wouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Mahrez just formally announced today and he was a bit ahead of Maxi wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Has Daniel stopped this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 This was 8 days ago^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Mahrez just formally announced today and he was a bit ahead of Maxi wasn't he? Aye, they were at a similar time. The PL will need to sign off on the Maxi deal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Lotus said: Wonder if there’ has been some confluence with ASM not finalising his move and Fabinho’s deal slowing down too. If Liverpool are very vocal in their protest against any fee we might receive, perhaps PIF have decided to put the brakes on an extremely good deal for an over the hill Fabinho. Share the pain. It would serve the stupid bastards right, they've benefited more than anybody so far getting shot of their older players for stupid money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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