PauloGeordio Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Yeah struck me straight away, sure he occasionally lost it, all flair players do. But ASM seems to want it all every single time. Sometimes you have to be smart with the ball Which most of the time he isn’t (love him btw) frustrating as fook when he’s trying to take 11 men on with no spacial awareness of who’s around him. On the upside we’ll have new signings to lift our mood going into the Watford game. Trippier breath of fresh air. Oh and no Extra games to risk a fragile 11 to injuries. full steam ahead to 17th place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I don't see what Howe can do with him when ASM doesn't know what he's going to do next 99% of the time. How do you coach an absolute wildcard into an effective team player? As I said earlier, Trippier will hate making runs for him and never seeing a pass and Wilson has already indicated he finds him frustrating because he cannot rely on ASM's service. I agree, but he's a massive asset, and Howe as the manager needs to find a way to get the best out of him. Whether it's by giving him a free role, or bringing him on as a first sub etc. A lot will depend on the players we bring in this window too. If we bring another skilful demon then we'd at least have balance on both sides, and not everything would have to go through him. He's a rotten egg at the moment and Howe is paid to get the best out of him or sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, ManDoon said: The stoke touch, while we are at it: https://imgur.com/a/0iKL1vz The beauty of that sequence is how he had also seen the run by his teammate in his periphery while pulling off that touch, and then he released the ball to him right away. ASM would have started trying to dribble their whole team from that position ... same thing every single time man. Like, switch it up occasionally please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ManDoon said: You almost have to concede and give him a free role but that is a big risk. Very big Yeah. Do you risk that or make the team more cohesive in terms of formation etc. In the position we are in, I'd go to the latter tbh and use him off the bench. Edited January 8, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) I'd go for the latter personally if we get the right players in, I think in the position we are in we need all hands on deck. Bad situation to choose though. Edited January 8, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 One of his former managers said 'His team mates just have no idea what he's going to do and unfortunately neither does he' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Somehow, the only player in the squad that seemed to put more effort in under Bruce Quite regularly looks like he doesn’t want to be here of late. I know he has always had his flaws, sulks and ‘injuries’. It’s easier to ignore when he’s playing well. But the lack of effort and shirking everything is just unacceptable. That’s worse than a bit of bad form. He is our most gifted player and we need him to get out the shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Think our best shot is Fraser & Murphy wingers, see if you can get Willock what he was doing last season in advanced role behind the striker. Fast wing play with service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I know Willock has been shocking as well, but think there’s more chance of him scoring a few arriving from deep with a regular supply from the full-backs and wingers in this position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 ASM is not the problem with this team. He's the least of our worries. Problems with him as I see it are: - He doesn't trust the other players because he thinks they're dogshit so tired to do it alone, but it's kinda hard to argue against him there even if it's frustrating as fuck - The opposition know that he's our only that because the rest of our players are dogshit so they stick 2 or 3 round him, marking or crowding him out of the game Get a couple of other decent forward players in the team who the opposition actually have to worry about and he'll look a different player. Be absolutely mad to even think about losing him from the squad, he does things few other players can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I know Willock has been shocking as well, but think there’s more chance of him scoring a few arriving from deep with a regular supply from the full-backs and wingers in this position. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chris_R said: ASM is not the problem with this team. He's the least of our worries. Problems with him as I see it are: - He doesn't trust the other players because he thinks they're dogshit so tired to do it alone, but it's kinda hard to argue against him there even if it's frustrating as fuck - The opposition know that he's our only that because the rest of our players are dogshit so they stick 2 or 3 round him, marking or crowding him out of the game Get a couple of other decent forward players in the team who the opposition actually have to worry about and he'll look a different player. Be absolutely mad to even think about losing him from the squad, he does things few other players can. I Think he thinks he is better than he actually is and the Twitter knackers blowing him off has got to his head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Was awful today but he shouldn't be dropped, like Playing Willock ahead of him would be madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Chris_R said: ASM is not the problem with this team. He's the least of our worries. Problems with him as I see it are: - He doesn't trust the other players because he thinks they're dogshit so tired to do it alone, but it's kinda hard to argue against him there even if it's frustrating as fuck - The opposition know that he's our only that because the rest of our players are dogshit so they stick 2 or 3 round him, marking or crowding him out of the game Get a couple of other decent forward players in the team who the opposition actually have to worry about and he'll look a different player. Be absolutely mad to even think about losing him from the squad, he does things few other players can. I feel like that has been the case a lot of the time in the past. But since the Brentford game, where he was great. A lot of the time, he has been lazy, ran down more blind alleys than an Oba Martins/Jonas hybrid, refuses an easy pass to play teammates in on goal and shirks even attempting to win the ball. He also wants to play centrally, but he is woeful there. I get he isn’t a striker. But whether it is as some kind of false 9 or a attacking mid, he is equally poor. He can’t receive the ball back to goal and he doesn’t seem to link play in the free role, either. We need him happy and in the team out wide. As he is quality and a match winner. It’s just where he fits at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Playing up front solo is giving ASM too much rope to hang himself with, he's trying to do too much and showboating all the time. He needs a decent striker in front of him so he's not trying to do everything himself and wasting so much of the ball. With confirmation Wilson is out for 8 weeks we need to buy someone this week or we're screwed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Minhosa said: Him and Trippier are nailed on to fall out btw. Trippier won't pussyfoot around him and will tell him straight. I predict ASM gone by next season. If we stay up I think he’ll be gone in the summer tbh. I’m not even arsed because now we know a replacement will be sought. I should clarify, if we go down, of course he’ll be gone. Edited January 8, 2022 by WarrenBartonCentrePartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I kind of hate him at the moment. Ball greedy wanker who rarely makes the right decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Was awful today but he shouldn't be dropped, like Playing Willock ahead of him would be madness. Aye, get him back on the wing and he'll continue to be a very good player for us. Do people forget the Man Utd game literally last week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, alijmitchell said: I kind of hate him at the moment. Ball greedy wanker who rarely makes the right decision. Goes down far too easily then just sits in a huff, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He has never hit above 5 for goals or assists in a Season in his Career. He's 25 in March. Aside from step overs and bandages he's nothing unusual. Wayne Routledge had better output. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Oregon_Geordie said: He has never hit above 5 for goals or assists in a Season in his Career. He's 25 in March. Aside from step overs and bandages he's nothing unusual. Wayne Routledge had better output. Yes he has, twice. He's already on 4 goals and 3 assists this season as well after 19 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, triggs said: Yes he has, twice. He's already on 4 goals and 3 assists this season as well after 19 games. https://fbref.com/en/players/2b16cb1a/Allan-Saint-Maximin I must be reading this wrong then. Also 4 & 3 is not above 5. 3 Assists in 19 is shite btw for a guy that has the ball for 90% of the time we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SiLvOR said: ASM isn't fit to lace Hatem's boots. ASM isn’t even as good as Lua Lua was, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, Chris_R said: ASM is not the problem with this team. He's the least of our worries. Problems with him as I see it are: - He doesn't trust the other players because he thinks they're dogshit so tired to do it alone, but it's kinda hard to argue against him there even if it's frustrating as fuck - The opposition know that he's our only that because the rest of our players are dogshit so they stick 2 or 3 round him, marking or crowding him out of the game Get a couple of other decent forward players in the team who the opposition actually have to worry about and he'll look a different player. Be absolutely mad to even think about losing him from the squad, he does things few other players can. This is the same feeling I get. And its an easy job when you can just stick 3 on him cause the rest of our players are so fucking bad that you can let them just walk in to other players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 No idea what's up with this lad. Has the ability, we've seen it. But his decision making is questionable at best and he either tries to do it all himself or be invisible for games. I thought his attitude today stunk tbh, he's not the only one mind but not being up for a game against any opposition in any competition is borderline unforgiveable. Problem that we had between 2014 and 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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