Guest neesy111 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 didn't wraith have some kind of funeral thing for nufc with him dressed up as a priest presiding over it? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Don't know why but the Adidas kicks always tickle me on those 'funeral' pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 good grief, look the best way to deal with him is to ignore him, he's clearly only tangentially interested in nufcs well being so long as he can get the spot light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Would it be reasonable to suggest that the Saudi’s owning us would accelerate their “modernisation” and progression as a forward thinking society? They’re going to be fully under the spotlight here...probably more than they realise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Would it be reasonable to suggest that the Saudi’s owning us would accelerate their “modernisation” and progression as a forward thinking society? They’re going to be fully under the spotlight here...probably more than they realise. I think that’s very reasonable. We can only help in this process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 sometimes you need to actually take money from "bad people" to help the greater good of a community and hopefully by holding them to task to do and be better, they may actually change. it doesn't always work this way, but many people have had to adopt this mentality in order to effectuate progress. hopefully, the incredible lens this puts the KSA via PIF's investment into NUFC and the region will aide in their progression and modernization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Newcastle fans and Saudi trolls fighting side by side against fiancee of a murder victim and human rights. What a time to be alive. (summary of todays Twitter) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Newcastle fans and Saudi trolls fighting side by side against fiancee of a murder victim and human rights. What a time to be alive. (summary of todays Twitter) Christ on a bike. WTF is going on, it's genuinely sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Beyond voting for a government that could condemn the nation and not work with them on trade and other issues, there's not much to do with the Saudis having their fingers in almost every pie these days. As Kanji says, the heightened scrutiny they might be under if they own a successful football club might be a positive with regards to pushing their culture into this century. The nation being more isolated rather than a part of a more global society would be much more negative for its people. On a personal note, I have no issue with working with Saudis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Success at any cost. All people will remember are trophies, the winning manager and some of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Couldn't even give a fuck about success, just wanna like me team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I don’t think it’s an impossibility that Saudi’s owning us could help them move forward but the amount of organisations whom are objecting suggests that might not be likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I don’t think it’s an impossibility that Saudi’s owning us could help them move forward but the amount of organisations whom are objecting suggests that might not be likely They're objecting at the Saudis getting a chance to "clean" their international reputation using sports, which in itself is fair enough. However, if they don't join the rest of the world there's no reason for them to do anything better either. There's no guarantee they'll improve conditions within their country and culture, but the chances are surely better now they want to make their economy not dependent on oil, and therefore them being dependent on being a part of the rest of the world and be on good terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Good point Kaizero[/member] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 ManDoon[/member] it's just another side of the argument bro. a saudi journalist may indeed have his own leaning agenda but surely there are always 2 sides to every story? nobody seems clean in any of this tbh. read so many contradictory stuff about this every day. exhausting following this and a time when you just want to have some joy. sad and sick world we live in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 ManDoon[/member] it's just another side of the argument bro. a saudi journalist may indeed have his own leaning agenda but surely there are always 2 sides to every story? nobody seems clean in any of this tbh. but its sick world we live in. When have amnesty supported terrorists? Also legal prostitution is a perfectly valid and healthy position to take. That isn’t something that makes them a bad org. It’s not another side of the argument for me, it’s dumb and him lashing out. Also lol at Saudis talking about terrorism, considering 9/11, Wahhabism and all the other shit they love. Sorry nah not having that literally just trying to say that everyone seems to have an agenda on every single side of this man. nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 twitter is poison for the soul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There just a century or so behind western humanist evolution. They’ll get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 ManDoon[/member] it's just another side of the argument bro. a saudi journalist may indeed have his own leaning agenda but surely there are always 2 sides to every story? nobody seems clean in any of this tbh. but its sick world we live in. When have amnesty supported terrorists? Also legal prostitution is a perfectly valid and healthy position to take. That isn’t something that makes them a bad org. It’s not another side of the argument for me, it’s dumb and him lashing out. Also lol at Saudis talking about terrorism, considering 9/11, Wahhabism and all the other shit they love. Sorry nah not having that Whilst the 9/11 hijackers were mostly Saudi nationals , they were employed by Al Quaeda not the Saudi government Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There just several centuries or so behind western humanist evolution. They’ll get there. True but its gonna take awhile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 they were the foremost exporters or Wahhabism, the most extreme form of Islam and the doctrine of most terrorists. They created the monster. I don’t really see how that’s up for debate. OBL was Saudi. OBL was against the Saudis he wanted to overthrow them . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 OBL was Saudi. Arsenal fan though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There just a century or so behind western humanist evolution. They’ll get there. They might want to stop in 70 or so then because the west has fallen into shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 So have we now we moved to Amnesty/human rights just being ”another side of the story” If this is taste of whats to come it might be better if this didnt happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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