Sean Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Playing devils advocate a bit here, and expect to get it from all quarters for this post, but: The only info we have that the tests will be passed has come from Caulkin via Staveley. Now they should have done research etc to be confident they will pass, but they cannot guarantee this. Sheff Utd are owned by the Princes cousin. The prince can/has randomly imprisoned members of his family...could he pressure the other Prince to influence the outcome of a game? Is there any previous examples of this close an ownership of 2 clubs in the same league? Can anyone find some evidence that suggests this is allowed? Now I'll caveat the above by saying most of the noises coming from the press would suggest there have been "no red flags", but this is the same press that many on here lambast for knowing nothing. I'd like factual information that shows 2 cousins owning clubs in the same league is OK, not abuse or ramblings. I'm pretty sure the lawyers of the buyers knew all of this before advising the buyers to pay a £17 million deposit. I've already pretty much stated that in my post. However, this is a pretty unique situation. FWIW of course MBS can pressure the Sheff Utd owner into doing whatever he likes....I fail to see how this wouldn't be an issue sadly. So he can also influence the management and the players? Doesn't have to, only has to be able to influence an owner. Anyway, like I've said, the papers etc don't seem to think it's an issue. It's just, looking objectively, I fail to see how he doesn't have the ability to influence another (less powerful) prince. I'm just thinking out loud really. Hopefully if it was an issue, he'd just influence the other prince to sell Sheff Utd though Well a few things about the whole theory. He's jailed other royal members he saw as threats to his power, not quite randomly as you stated. Competing against a team 80% owned by the PIF - which he chairs but as far as I can tell doesn't deal with the day to day on anyway, that's Yasir somethingorather - is not a threat to his power. As well, let's accept the PIF is doing this as a sportswashing exercise. Turning around to jail/intimidate a cousin owner of another team in the league wouldn't be very smart. Lastly, as far as I can tell he's chair of the PIF by title but it's that Yasir fella what does most of the heavy lifting. The club consumes our daily waking lives, not his. I'd stake my life MBS is in no way going to obsess as we would if we owned it. Thats all well and good, but I don't think him "obsessing" has anything to do with it. It's an owners ability to influence another owner. Can anybody please give a reply based in fact/law that can prove he does not have the ability to influence another owner. Not stating that he is unlikely to. I have the ability to jump the curb and mow down pedestrians in my car. Should I be banned from driving? It's absolutely useless, beyond pointless, to just dream up scenarios as if just because something is possible it will happen. You have to demonstrate something is likely for it to matter. No, the rules solely relate to the ability to influence another owner. Show me where the PL have to prove it is likely? The answer is they don't. They absolutely have to apply some level of certainty jesus christ Every group rich enough to own a football club has, to some extent, the ability to influence people in other clubs. There might be a pecking order, i.e. watfords owners can't exactly bully liverpool's fenway group, but that doesn't mean it's not there in other directions. Wow Comparing unrelated companies to 2 closely related members of the same royal family ffs. It's really not comparable and even you must realise that. It's not like your royal family, you know, there's thousands of them. I know that, just trying to cover all bases for this going through. He has the power to imprison the other guy though, so I don't see how it could be argued he couldn't influence him. The key being the PL shouldn't (hopefully) be looking into MBS as he's not named anywhere. Unless he is named as head of PIF or something like that, but I'd hope/assume there is enough legal separation for this not to be an issue. lads, we're getting taken over in less than a minute. give ower, man Last minute nerves...I'll stop now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 RESUME THE ETHICAL DEBATE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 some1 on twitter followed nufc and theres an old newcastle match being show on saudi tv ,must be happening imminently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Jaffa cake or biscuit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Well that was a bit of an anti climax..... Well it definitely wasn't funny, I know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Jaffa cake or biscuit? Depends on what you're having it with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Jaffa cake or biscuit? It’s a cake. They even went to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Murmur is also a really good REM album Their best album. It's brilliant. Great album. Out Of Time for me though. Omminous Life's Rich Pageant on balance. I'm arguing with myself now because Green is amazing too Reckoning Today we need Automatic For The People Not a Reveal ? If so we need someone to Accelerate it I quite agree, nobody wants to Collapse Into Now I give Up! Someone needs to Document this moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Woke up this morning feeling fine, got Ashley Out on my mind... Is today the day?! No, no it's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Gutted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Woke up this morning feeling fine, got Ashley Out on my mind... Is today the day?! No, no it's not Where is that bloke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 wheres that cunt HTT anyway, my kids are crying now ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 RESUME THE ETHICAL DEBATE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 well he's here forever then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 was waiting for "it didn't happen at HTT's made up deadline" to equate to "it's all off" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 wheres that cunt HTT anyway, my kids are crying now ffs He’s out in the park with his wife and kids ironically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Wednesday is the new Friday. Always knew that it was going to happen then, HTT just being an attention seeker as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 People actually took HTT seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 So when’s the next made up date and time we need to focus on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 If true, Strange game to air I hope they're showing the one where we all made paper aeroplanes out of the flyers that were left on the seats. Can't remember the season, the manager, the opposition or anything, but I remember the aeroplanes drifting over my head in the Gallowgate Crystal Palace, either under Souness or Allardyce. Toon toon Pepperami. Souness. One from the Leazes made it into the centre circle, biggest cheer of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 So when’s the next made up date and time we need to focus on? Thursday, based on nothing but gut feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Get in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 If this turns out to be another fakeover and we end up back with Ashley and Bruce come the start of football again, I swear someone is going to get hurt (respecting social distancing of course)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Well a bird has just shat on me. Was outside for at most a minute. Got to mean something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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