FloydianMag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 'by the letter of the law it should have no chance'? Christ, so many different and conflicting interpretations of what is going on. It just needs to end. By the letter of what law? Does he say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Coming up to 3 months to decide if someone is fit and proper. Fucking useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 'by the letter of the law it should have no chance'? Christ, so many different and conflicting interpretations of what is going on. It just needs to end. By the letter of what law? Does he say? No idea, just going off that tweet above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Probably also worth noting he writes for the Guardian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 'by the letter of the law it should have no chance'? Christ, so many different and conflicting interpretations of what is going on. It just needs to end. By the letter of what law? Does he say? All of the journalists will be saying this over the next few days “ it should have failed but there was just too much pressure on the PL to pass it” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 That’s what he says. He’s wrong though as the WTO report didn’t blame MBS/PIF or the Saudi state for being behind the piracy. Just said enough wasn’t done to tackle it or allow access to their legal system to prosecute. He’s either not read the report or has an anti-Saudi angle. Journalists these days seem to want to influence and make the news, not just report it. Don’t believe all that you read folks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Think I’ll just check back in on Monday. Nothing will happen before then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Sean Ingles is against the takeover, so he’s just another journalist putting his own spin on WTO report. However, my confidence is rising by the day, though groups including bein have been very public with their objections, ingles tweet confirms theirs big pressure to approve. Everyone doubted at the start why the Saudis needed to involve reubens and Staveley, but I think now we see why. They are the respectable face of this bid, and in particular Jamie Reuben is a close ally of Boris. There is no way the premier league have not discussed this deal with government, due to ramifications of relationship with Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 'by the letter of the law it should have no chance'? Christ, so many different and conflicting interpretations of what is going on. It just needs to end. By the letter of what law? Does he say? All of the journalists will be saying this over the next few days “ it should have failed but there was just too much pressure on the PL to pass it” Sounds like a pretty fair assessment though, doesn't it? They clearly did what they've been accused of, and the WTO is right that giving it the thumbs up in that case runs counter to the Premier League's own standards. But hopefully, knowing the Premier League, that won't be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The WTO didn't say that man, it was Qatar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 'by the letter of the law it should have no chance'? Christ, so many different and conflicting interpretations of what is going on. It just needs to end. By the letter of what law? Does he say? All of the journalists will be saying this over the next few days “ it should have failed but there was just too much pressure on the PL to pass it” Sounds like a pretty fair assessment though, doesn't it? They clearly did what they've been accused of, and the WTO is right that giving it the thumbs up in that case runs counter to the Premier League's own standards. But hopefully, knowing the Premier League, that won't be an issue. The WTO never said that about the PL and the WTO report didn’t state that the Saudis are behind the piracy, it is all spin from the Magedia claiming that it does say that. Hopefully positive news soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The huge numbers of "mis-quotes" and "misunderstandings" on here (often quoted "as if they are FACTS") is quite incredible. I thought the Takeover would be approved, because of the WTO Report as evidence, the "day after" it was published. I obviously got the time-scale wrong, but the facts still speak for themselves, and the inevitable approval should be given very, very soon now. Happy DAZE imminently ahead people, VERY happy indeed !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The area highlighted seems pretty definite to me, nothing to misinterpret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The area highlighted seems pretty definite to me, nothing to misinterpret. Yeah but it’s still just an opinion from someone, that actual highlighted paragraph wasn’t in the actual WTO report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Not sure I agree with that mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Not sure I agree with that mind Same here, I think if they do turn it down it gets overturned on appeal, as there is nothing linking PIF with piracy. There is no doubt that it could and possibly should be turned down on moral grounds, but that ship sailed years ago with Russian, UAE, Chinese and Saudi ownership already in the premier league, so if they did take a stand now it would be ripped apart by the Saudi lawyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Not sure I agree with that mind Same here, I think if they do turn it down it gets overturned on appeal, as there is nothing linking PIF with piracy. There is no doubt that it could and possibly should be turned down on moral grounds, but that ship sailed years ago with Russian, UAE, Chinese and Saudi ownership already in the premier league, so if they did take a stand now it would be ripped apart by the Saudi lawyers. Moral grounds are not part of the PL ODT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Not sure I agree with that mind Same here, I think if they do turn it down it gets overturned on appeal, as there is nothing linking PIF with piracy. There is no doubt that it could and possibly should be turned down on moral grounds, but that ship sailed years ago with Russian, UAE, Chinese and Saudi ownership already in the premier league, so if they did take a stand now it would be ripped apart by the Saudi lawyers. Moral grounds are not part of the PL ODT. Exactly they are not as they choose to not put them in, so can’t turn us down. What I was trying to say on moral grounds the Saudis probably shouldn’t be able to buy a football club but that also goes for almost half of the other premier league clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 This is the key section of report and journalists are choosing to ignore. /https://twitter.com/Andy_Ebs4/status/1274243751322554368 Again that’s just an interpretation that’s what leaves this whole thing on a knife edge as everyone has different views on it. That's no interpretation, there is nothing in the report stating the government of KSA or PIF were directly involved in the transmission. No but the reporters who are saying it does are highlighting other points about them not shitting it down which shows they supported it and seem to believe that will be enough. You could say that about Amazon then also as you can install the Kodi/IPTV (and I presume BEoutQ) apps on the firestick so why have they not shut that down/stopped available downloads of these apps I honestly think the report gives the premier league enough room to decide either way and not suffer any backlash. Not sure I agree with that mind Same here, I think if they do turn it down it gets overturned on appeal, as there is nothing linking PIF with piracy. There is no doubt that it could and possibly should be turned down on moral grounds, but that ship sailed years ago with Russian, UAE, Chinese and Saudi ownership already in the premier league, so if they did take a stand now it would be ripped apart by the Saudi lawyers. Moral grounds are not part of the PL ODT. Exactly they are not as they choose to not put them in, so can’t turn us down. What I was trying to say on moral grounds the Saudis probably shouldn’t be able to buy a football club but that also goes for almost half of the other premier league clubs If they revamp the test after this takeover they may/could add such a rule, however morality is a minefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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