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Just now, Froggy said:

There likely wouldn't be huge changes, but I'm certain the likes of Liverpool would be higher in the table. Their fans are so important to them (and their home support is one of the best in the league). It would have spurred them on a bit more in the home games IMO.

Especially when they were struggling a bit on the pitch, that's where good support comes in.

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Just now, Froggy said:

There likely wouldn't be huge changes, but I'm certain the likes of Liverpool would be higher in the table. Their fans are so important to them (and their home support is one of the best in the league). It would have spurred them on a bit more in the home games IMO.

I think Liverpool and West Ham are the best examples of this coming into play this season. (for positive and negative). I'd probably argue that Leeds might be higher in the table too.

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Just now, neesy111 said:

Especially when they were struggling a bit on the pitch, that's where good support comes in.

100%. To me there's just no way that Liverpool side loses 6 home games in a row with the Anfield crowd roaring them on. 

Certainly in some of our home games there has been a real lack of urgency in games where we've needed to score. A crowd can give you a huge kick up the arse.

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Aye that's exactly it. As others have said, I don't think league table would be massively different. You can't claim fans aren't having an impact though when you have an unusual amount of teams in the top half struggling at home, while at the same time teams across the board are over-performing away from home. Ridiculous to claim fans aren't having an impact, every game's basically at a neutral venue and the home/away results have been impacted accordingly.

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I think the teams would be roughly in the same places but the league might be a bit more elongated points wise. Hopefully be a thing of the past moving forward anyway. 

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3 hours ago, Jaqen said:

The Man United fans showed more in their protests then ours have in over a decade under Ashley. 

Seen this post a few times in recent weeks.

Can’t really say it’s comparable. In the superleague aftermath it became a contest between the fans of the super league teams to protest as much as possible to distance themselves from any criticism of their teams, and also try to show off some passion fir their plastic teams. Whatever actions they did in these protests were not only immune for criticism from the media, but rather applauded. The fact that they all spent the last year at home only increased their enthusiasm when they had a “valid” reason to crowd together cause havoc.

Whatever small effort our fan base has done during MA has been shot down immediately by the media and almost caused more harm than good 

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If you look at the points total for the top half, it's very high to get in there.  Remember we finished 10th with 45 points under Rafa.

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Bottom 3 has been utter shite this season like, has to be one of the worst in recent times. Shite like us, Burnley and Saints not even being close to relegation says a lot. 

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I cannot believe the lack of attention West Brom’s second goal being ruled out is getting.

Its a fucking disgrace, if Liverpool had been denied that goal and went on to lose the game there would have been uproar. Sky would hav constantly gone on about VAR and been crying all week about, there’d be candles lit on social media, and we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

Instead because it actually favoured the big team and got the media’s favourite team the win, it’s just, not even being brushed over, it’s being completely ignored.

There was nothing wrong with the goal and Dean fucked up for Liverpool’s first, the decisions they get are unreal and now it’s just being ignored. It’s a joke man

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1 hour ago, NUFCDoog said:

I cannot believe the lack of attention West Brom’s second goal being ruled out is getting.

Its a fucking disgrace, if Liverpool had been denied that goal and went on to lose the game there would have been uproar. Sky would hav constantly gone on about VAR and been crying all week about, there’d be candles lit on social media, and we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

Instead because it actually favoured the big team and got the media’s favourite team the win, it’s just, not even being brushed over, it’s being completely ignored.

There was nothing wrong with the goal and Dean fucked up for Liverpool’s first, the decisions they get are unreal and now it’s just being ignored. It’s a joke man

They didn't even fucking look at it, right? 

Similarly, they looked at our first penalty on Friday for ages, doing their very best to find something to rule it out. 

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Brentford have been utter shite, their Maths teacher manager getting caught out when it matters again it would appear. 

Edit: not that he can legislate for them missing open goals.

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24 minutes ago, Disco said:

Brentford have been utter shite, their Maths teacher manager getting caught out when it matters again it would appear. 

Edit: not that he can legislate for them missing open goals.

Some of the passing tonight was unbelievable, I don't think the 3 teams coming up are any better than the ones going down 

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8 hours ago, NUFCDoog said:

I cannot believe the lack of attention West Brom’s second goal being ruled out is getting.

Its a fucking disgrace, if Liverpool had been denied that goal and went on to lose the game there would have been uproar. Sky would hav constantly gone on about VAR and been crying all week about, there’d be candles lit on social media, and we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

Instead because it actually favoured the big team and got the media’s favourite team the win, it’s just, not even being brushed over, it’s being completely ignored.

There was nothing wrong with the goal and Dean fucked up for Liverpool’s first, the decisions they get are unreal and now it’s just being ignored. It’s a joke man

I must be in the minority where I think the second was the right decision. He was stood directly in front of the keeper. Therefore he’s absolutely interfering with play.

The only irritating part of it was I doubt it’d have made any difference if he wasn’t there. But as far as the rules go, it was offside.

The first was an absolute shit show though. No idea what Dean was thinking. Although it’s hard to have sympathy for WBA when they had so many opportunities to clear it and their dogshit defending led to the goal. I also have no idea why none of the WBA players challenged the decision at all, it was weird all round.

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