Cronky Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 For me, the correct change was Fernandez on for Ronaldo, push Cavani up front, Greenwood and Sancho around him in a 4-3-3. Ronaldo's main strength was when he had the space to run at defences with the ball, but he doesn't seem to be able or willing to do that any more. In his current position, he's still a good finisher, but he doesn't contribute well enough in other areas. I don't think I've once seen Rangnick shouting any instructions from the sidelines, or even looking particularly animated. A manager doesn't have to be a teacup thrower, but the team looks like its lacking in leadership and direction, and he may be part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Portugeezers nearly always have strong hair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Was a bit weird the praise they were getting for going down the pick a random German nerd route. As always, seeing them fail will never not be a thing of beauty. Do well to challenge for the Conference League in future seasons once we begin to thrive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Yeah they do, Ronnie has good hair. Bruno not so much, but that’s rat genetics overtaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, joeyt said: Portugeezers nearly always have strong hair TIL Helder Cristóvão is managing in Saudi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 One of the worst Man United performances I can ever remember. Completely dominated from start to finish at home to a mid table side. Wolves could have won 5-0 and it wouldn't have flattered them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Doesn’t seem like the 4-2-2-2 suits them. Problem is I’m not sure what system would fit them. They have a wealth of attackers but can’t get the ball to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeah they do, Ronnie has good hair. Bruno not so much, but that’s rat genetics overtaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Tomato Deuce said: Doesn’t seem like the 4-2-2-2 suits them. Problem is I’m not sure what system would fit them. They have a wealth of attackers but can’t get the ball to them. Totally agree but I think the huge void in the middle of the park is the biggest issue right now imo. The obvious solution is to stick Pogba (or v.d Beek) in there rather than dross like Fred or Matic. Not sure where Pogba fits into this 4-2-2-2 though. They need to make some big decisions about the composition of that squad though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 In an alternative universe, where Rangnick became our manager, I wonder if he'd have gone 4-2-2-2 with our shower of shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Thing with 4-2-2 is there's no room to fit Fernandes in unless you're shunting him out on the wing or playing him centre mid (which I don't think he has the discipline for). And Fernandes has been their most influential player since he joined. Ronaldo is such a hinderance to any formation they want to play imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Brighton played it very good effect v Everton at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Fernandes completely negated in a side with Ronaldo in it. Always standing in his shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The complete lack of any plan is hilarious in their squad. Bought Van de Beek for loads knowing that he basically plays in the same position as Bruno/Pogba albeit in a different way. Brought back Ronaldo despite Bruno struggling really badly in the Euros just a few months ago with Ronaldo in the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: The complete lack of any plan is hilarious in their squad. Bought Van de Beek for loads knowing that he basically plays in the same position as Bruno/Pogba albeit in a different way. Brought back Ronaldo despite Bruno struggling really badly in the Euros just a few months ago with Ronaldo in the side Isn't it great? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 And 3 of the most promising English attackers in Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho and can't get them playing well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: The complete lack of any plan is hilarious in their squad. Bought Van de Beek for loads knowing that he basically plays in the same position as Bruno/Pogba albeit in a different way. Brought back Ronaldo despite Bruno struggling really badly in the Euros just a few months ago with Ronaldo in the side Aren't they all struggling with Ronaldo in the side though? He seems to want to play just as an old fashioned goal-poacher, and everyone has to fit in around that. He doesn't hold the ball up well, create anything for his team mates or close down defenders, which should all be at least part of a modern striker's game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Aren't they all struggling with Ronaldo in the side though? He seems to want to play just as an old fashioned goal-poacher, and everyone has to fit in around that. He doesn't hold the ball up well, create anything for his team mates or close down defenders, which should all be at least part of a modern striker's game. Well aye most of the teams he's been in since Real Madrid seem like they would be better off without him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The players don’t believe in the system so they stop playing it after 15 minutes and start doing their own thing. It’s glorious to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The players don’t believe in the system so they stop playing it after 15 minutes and start doing their own thing. It’s glorious to see. How is 4-2-2-2 supposed to work? The obvious question is who goes out wide, and if that's the two more advanced midfield players then you've got a 4-2-4 and the midfield gets overrun. If they stay back then you've got an old fashioned 4-4-2. I can only imagine that it's actually a very sophisticated creation where everyone's interchanging positions, but I presume you'd need very versatile players and time to coach them into the right way of thinking. Rangnick doesn't have time, and needs to get the best from the players he's got. He's an interim manager, and normally you'd expect someone in that position to just be keeping things ticking over until the permanent manager is installed. But Rangnick is acting like he's laying down a long-term plan, which presumably the new man is going to take over at the end of the season whilst he watches from upstairs. Edited January 3, 2022 by Cronky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The players don’t believe in the system so they stop playing it after 15 minutes and start doing their own thing. It’s glorious to see. Just like Pardews Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cronky said: How is 4-2-2-2 supposed to work? The obvious question is who goes out wide, and if that's the two more advanced midfield players then you've got a 4-2-4 and the midfield gets overrun. If they stay back then you've got an old fashioned 4-4-2. I can only imagine that it's actually a very sophisticated creation where everyone's interchanging positions, but I presume you'd need very versatile players and time to coach them into the right way of thinking. Rangnick doesn't have time, and needs to get the best from the players he's got. He's an interim manager, and normally you'd expect someone in that position to just be keeping things ticking over until the permanent manager is installed. But Rangnick is acting like he's laying down a long-term plan, which presumably the new man is going to take over at the end of the season whilst he watches from upstairs. Pretty certain Man City used 4-2-2-2 under Mancini. You need top class full backs for it to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, ManDoon said: Ahead of his time. He’d be a class player now He'd struggle even today if he kept being put out on the wing like Bobby did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Liverpool trying to get their Carabao Cup game postponed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Liverpool trying to get their Carabao Cup game postponed. Ridiculous considering they only really play the kids anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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