The Prophet Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, christ said: I appreciate everything is shit and the club is a mess, but the level of pissing and moaning at the prospect of us spending money on a player Arsenal fans want them to keep hold of is quite something. I’m off to watch Requiem for a Dream to cheer up. I'd say the reaction to this has been overwhelmingly positive. Discussing the qualities of the player and the context of the signing are perfectly legitimate discussions to be had. What is turning me off the football forum massively is that people consistently making up nonexistent reasons to be negative. The state of the club is as bleak as it is without adding subjective nonsense to the mix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Then why the surprise at people being apathetic or dubious towards the signing (which I think is more accurate than 'pissing and moaning', from what I've read here, particularly seeing as there's plenty who've said they're happy with the signing...) if you know the dismal bigger picture overrules an isolated positive move? Ashley's still here, Bruce is still here, the club's still on life support, going nowhere - but let's be jubilant cos we've spent 20mill on just-about standing still? Fair play to those who are still 'in', such as yourself, mind; I'm envious of those who still get the feelings. I wouldn’t say I’m jubilant like. It would be a good signing. I think you have to be pretty churlish to suggest otherwise. Some of the criticism - about the fee, about the fact other clubs aren’t in for him - is just plain odd. At this point signing anyone that makes it marginally less likely we get relegated is cause for some small degree of cheer, because Ashley isn’t shifting a Championship club for £300m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Minhosa said: FWIW, he's pleased it's permanent as he doesn't think he can keep the form up. If he could keep that form up we've signed peak Gerrard/Lampard like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Aye, I'm in no way expecting him to keep anything near it up. If he gets 10-15 goals this season he'd have done very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, christ said: I appreciate everything is shit and the club is a mess, but the level of pissing and moaning at the prospect of us spending money on a player Arsenal fans want them to keep hold of is quite something. I’m off to watch Requiem for a Dream to cheer up. While it's pleasing, the reality is we're signing him with the main thrust of what we might make from him if we sell him on. You and me don't look at it like that, but our owner and his cronies do. You and i see a fantastic talent, with that unteachable knack of scoring from midfield. They see a chance to double their money or more. Ashley has killed whatever joy we have in any signings when you look into them really. Edited August 9, 2021 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: While it's pleasing, the reality is we're signing him with the main thrust of what we might make from him if we sell him on. You and me don't look at it like that, but our owner and his cronies do. You and i see a fantastic talent, with that unteachable knack of scoring from midfield. They see a chance to double their money or more. Ashley has killed whatever joy we have in any signings when you look into them really. I am under absolutely no illusion as to how this football club operates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, christ said: I am under absolutely no illusion as to how this football club operates. I know, i wasn't thinking you didn't, apologises if that wasn't clear but you get my point. You and i want to see such talent in a Black and White shirt, but you know it's so futile and pointless. It's so frustrating and heartbreaking watching the scum who run our club so cynically, get a free pass from the media because we might spend on the odd player here and there. Edited August 9, 2021 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Do we really think that is Ashley is going to keep the club if the PIF takeover fails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Hhtoon said: Like a few teams to be fair Fair comment but this is us , we don’t plan for it. I’m not expecting much and at very best 12th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Hhtoon said: Do we really think that is Ashley is going to keep the club if the PIF takeover fails? Unless he lowers the price to an alternative buyer, then aye for the time being, horrendous thought but that's the reality imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: Do we really think that is Ashley is going to keep the club if the PIF takeover fails? He will have to , no one is banging down the door to get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Then why the surprise at people being apathetic or dubious towards the signing (which I think is more accurate than 'pissing and moaning', from what I've read here, particularly seeing as there's plenty who've said they're happy with the signing...) if you know the dismal bigger picture overrules an isolated positive move? Ashley's still here, Bruce is still here, the club's still on life support, going nowhere - but let's be jubilant cos we've spent 20mill on just-about standing still? Fair play to those who are still 'in', such as yourself, mind; I'm envious of those who still get the feelings. Might just quote that whenever anything not bad happens here, wins, signings - it basically comes down to this unless you kid yourself. To Bishop Ashley and Barnes its tossing a trained seal a fish and watching it clap. And any signing that turns out good won't be built on and we'll just be playing Russian roulette every window until they're sold. We know the ending. Edited August 9, 2021 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, GWN said: He will have to , no one is banging down the door to get it Sure it's been reported that he's had offers but he's holding out for the PIF deal as it's higher and upfront Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, GWN said: Fair comment but this is us , we don’t plan for it. I’m not expecting much and at very best 12th Our Wilson backup is admittedly fucking criminal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: Our Wilson backup is admittedly fucking criminal We have backup? Assume you mean Mike's wallpaper?...still more effective than Joelinton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Failed to agree terms? Taking a while this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, RS said: Failed to agree terms? Taking a while this. We wouldn’t dare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 It's taken Chelsea 2+ days to have Lukaku confirmed after the bid was accepted by Inter, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 49 minutes ago, RS said: Failed to agree terms? Taking a while this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Villa in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, toontownman said: Villa in for him. Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, toontownman said: Villa in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, GWN said: Link? I don't understand why many sides aren't in for him or ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: I don't understand why many sides aren't in for him or ASM. I wonder if the clubs he'd be likely to go to have that sort of cash for a player who has had a few injury problems. ASM that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 For the money wanted for ASM, he's a huge risk. Has he even been fit in the last 18 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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