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15 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Bruce is probably on about 500k and Rafa was on 6 mill so over 3 seasons Ashley saves at least 15 milion plus what he's saved on not buying players which a decent manager would demand or leave

 

Bruce is on £3m a year.

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1 minute ago, 54 said:

Imagine getting paid that amount to be absolutely shite at you job :lol: 

 

It was a 600% pay increase from his previous contract.  People think ashley is good at business....

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4 minutes ago, Darth Crooks said:

They literally were contemptuous enough to think hiring two Geordies at once would get them off the hook in Bruce and Carroll. Wilfully wrong messages ‘learned’ every time. They active laugh at fans who pay them and invest time. Sports Neglect.con.


There’s still around 40,000 home fans and 2-3k away fans who’ve bought it.

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1 hour ago, Darth Crooks said:

They literally were contemptuous enough to think hiring two Geordies at once would get them off the hook in Bruce and Carroll. Wilfully wrong messages ‘learned’ every time. They active laugh at fans who pay them and invest time. Sports Neglect.con.


It worked perfectly though? Other than a few Ashley chants sung by those funding his club, what else has he had to contend with?

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Not that we need this to reaffirm what we think, but that could be written now in 2021 and it's absolutely bang on.

 

Astonishing how so many people just don't understand Bruce like his mates in the media. It's almost like they have a vested interest in making shit up in his favour.

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1 minute ago, mouldy_uk said:


Depressing that Villa binned him with a much better win % (think he’s around 30% for us). Also feels like he’s been with us for about 5 years, not less than 3


Mental to think that was his record with the most expensive side to ever play in that division.

 

Serial loser. 

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21 minutes ago, Danh1 said:


Mental to think that was his record with the most expensive side to ever play in that division.

 

Serial loser. 

 

And when we replaced him with a younger manager who had previously only reached the heights of Brentford, we put in ten wins in a row and went from bottom half of the table to play off winners. 

 

Also need to remember Bruce had Grealish, the most expensive British footballer ever a couple years later, Tammy Abraham, John Terry - in the championship. 

 

Ultimately though, Bruce's failure saved us. We went to within literally days of going into administration and got sold to two hugely ambitious and supportive billionaires. 

 

Had Bruce won that play off final we'd probably still be owned by that crook Xia and back in the championship now. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

I think the improvement is simply because we've played two (currently) awful teams. I doubt there's anything more to it than that.

 

Ah, that's 'the improvement conundrum' at work, whereby a manager gets a side looking so utterly abject that absolutely anything can be taken as a sign of improvement.

 

So the media will say "They're improving" which is true in the literal sense but says nothing about how low the bar had been set by the manager.

 

Like saying "Well, I'm not dead, so things are getting better. True, I've had all my limbs amputated and can only travel by being rolled around, but that's an improvement on being dead"

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