KaKa Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: At the end of the day £8m is nothing now, as much as I want Bruce to suffer I don’t see why they would quibble at 70% v 100%. I actually respect them for not just handing it over to the fat mess. They're looking at the position the club is in at the bottom of the table and how much the fans and players dislike him and are thinking 'why should we just give this idiot £8 million?!'. It's absolutely disgusting really. Edited October 15, 2021 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 What time is his press conference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, TRon said: When you talk about a nice guy, this is where you differentiate between those who have some principles and those who just want to put on a public facade of someone decent. Ruud Gullitt would normally be considered arrogant, but he had enough self respect to walk away without any compensation when he was sacked. - and that was when there was probably a lot less money around in the game. Bruce despite being a millionaire several times over, is hanging on for every penny, and screwing his "local club" in the process. The fat cunt. Bacon though lol lovely man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The awkward hiring of Graeme Jones and him essentially looking like the new manager is also beginning to make more sense now. I think it was the best way they could manage bringing someone new in, without getting rid of Bruce because they couldn't, even though at that point they probably knew they had to, as he was taking us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: I actually respect them for not just handing it over to the fat mess. They're looking at the position the club is in at the bottom of the table and how much the fans and players dislike him and are thinking 'why should we just give this idiot £8 million?!'. It's absolutely disgusting really. Aye, plus they are businessmen/women we may have a lot of cash but they will not want to waste a single penny! They will strategically calculate all costs and to be honest as a club that’s exactly what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, nufcjb said: What time is his press conference? 1:30pm today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: The awkward hiring of Graeme Jones and him essentially looking like the new manager is also beginning to make more sense now. I think it was the best way they could manage bringing someone new in, without getting rid of Bruce because they couldn't, even though at that point they probably knew they had to, as he was taking us down. Yep, sadly it only really worked because Willock became Superman for 3 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Unai Emery May be making an appearance at today’s press conference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Unai Emery May be making an appearance at today’s press conference Aye right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Unai Emery May be making an appearance at today’s press conference HP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Be happy with Dick Emery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 If true this cements for me why he is worse than Pardew. We knew what Pardew was from day one, he owned it and didn’t surprise us at any point. He made me want my team to lose but he at least got the message and fucked off when he had the chance Bruce on the other hand is only here because ‘he is one of us’. He knew what he was walking into, knew what the fans felt about the owner and knew that better people had tried and failed to change the situation. He isn’t a fan, he never was a fan and is now holding the club he ‘loved since he was a boy’ to ransom. I’m sick of hearing about his dad and I’m sick of him having a go at the fan base. A true fan would never have come near this shit show, he’s now proved he isn’t a fan by not leaving when he has the chance. He shouldn’t be anywhere near Sunday and he shouldn’t even be allowed to talk about ‘his’ club once he finally leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Is it possible to watch the press conference? If so, where? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, mofo said: Aye, plus they are businessmen/women we may have a lot of cash but they will not want to waste a single penny! They will strategically calculate all costs and to be honest as a club that’s exactly what we need. Yes, absolutely. I imagine we were all set to sack Bruce and then word of the large payoff got back to PIF and they were like 'Hell No!'. I imagine they have been looking into if there are any ways to bring that number down, unless it is absolutely necessary as there is no way out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: If we win on Sunday, I'm not opposed to him sticking around for a few games if we're in decent form. Picking up wins and staying up in objective number one. The new owners need to get a decent structure in place with the right man. That might take time. Lose on Sunday and his position is untenable though. You could even argue that if we fail to win. I don't want us to panic and appoint some chump. Its easy to sit there and say 'anyone is better than Bruce' but we're in trouble here and we've got a poor squad. We might still appoint someone who is default better than Bruce but still not good enough to get us going. Lampard might be in that category. This is about where I am, pretty zen about Sunday. If we win, great. I can definitely put up with his mates saying “Give Bruce half a billion” - because the three points are valuable and he becomes sackable again the next time we drop points. If we lose, great. Boo Bruce until your throat bleeds and tell Yasir and Amanda exactly what you think. Brucie cries in the press conference and gets pedalled Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, pinkeye said: May cost less to carry on paying his salary for life and peddling him out of the club, I mean seriously .... the state of him.... he is hardly going to live to a very old age! https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peddle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It depends why they're keeping him really. If they're doing it to get a structure in place, great and understandable. If they're doing it to save a couple of million, not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I doubt its the amount he might be owed. Probably trying to find other ways to not pay him off i.e. zero performance/gross negligence or other reasons instead, and there must be many of them. How about his whole managerial record for starters. Just get rid of the idiot FFS, whatever the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, STM said: I want it clear how we feel about Bruce on the terraces but I don't want it to dampen the carnival. Postpone the carnival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I think it’s quite clear at this point they don’t see value in replacing him without a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I think it’s quite clear at this point they don’t see value in replacing him without a replacement. I thought it was until the stuff about his rolling contract and compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I’m assuming because it’s a rolling 3 year contract the minimum term is always 3 years hence the large payout. Generally rolling contracts would be 1 months notice. Jesus christ!!! It can't be that straight forward? Even by Ashley/Charnley standards that is poor. I refuse to believe that it is intentional. The intent from Newcastle side has to have been that a new 3 year term is to be automatically renewed after a 3 year period has been completed, but rather that Charnley have put forward or accepted bad wording to the contract that is not clear and open for opportunistic interpretation which is now the dispute....surely? Purely speculation from my side, but is it fair to assume that Newcastle ownership feels we have a case for terminating the contract and paying out compensation for remainder of this season, while Bruce feels he has a case for demanding that they compensate for a full term, and that we have offered him a compromise to get it settled sooner rather than later? This certainly alters my view and feeling towards the new owners as to why he isn't gone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Sounds like it was just Ashley and Bruce setting a trap for the new owners, so Bruce would take the job in the knowledge he would get a massive pay off after the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Jesus christ!!! It can't be that straight forward? Even by Ashley/Charnley standards that is poor. I refuse to believe that it is intentional. The intent from Newcastle side has to have been that a new 3 year term is to be automatically renewed after a 3 year period has been completed, but rather that Charnley have put forward or accepted bad wording to the contract that is not clear and open for opportunistic interpretation which is now the dispute....surely? Purely speculation from my side, but is it fair to assume that Newcastle ownership feels we have a case for terminating the contract and paying out compensation for remainder of this season, while Bruce feels he has a case for demanding that they compensate for a full term, and that we have offered him a compromise to get it settled sooner rather than later? This certainly alters my view and feeling towards the new owners as to why he isn't gone yet. I think it is that straight forward. You have to remember that this is Ashley we are talking about, think he wanted to give the guy the typical 6 year or 8 year contracts he usually does, but knew the fans would have been enraged right from the outset. And so he was sneaky about it. Once he has someone that he knows is a complete patsy he's happy to keep them around forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Unai Emery May be making an appearance at today’s press conference ? no chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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