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We're in freefall, just can't see us staying up right now. QPR will play with no pressure and will play well imo, and with our toothless frontline, we'll struggle even against them I reckon.

 

Arsenal is a guranteed loss I think, unless Pardew gives the teamtalk of his life. Wigan are also just too up for it, my fingers are crossed but I don't see us squeezing out of this nightmare, hope to god I'm wrong :(

 

QPR will play well? They've never done that before, don't see why they should start now.

 

I understand your nervousness but you've taken it a bit far there.

 

For once I actually agree with Ian, think there is still hope here and QPR are woeful, a point there though may be enough, hell we could lose both games and there would still be a chance that we could move up the table by the end of the season :)

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Hoping that Wigan have an eye on the weekend (despite them not being expected to win the cup), and if they lose to Swansea tonight, and then lose the cup final, their players head might drop for their last 2 matches.

 

Hopefully a couple more players will heed the injuries to Figueroa and B'jour and play within themselves.

 

Pass me them straws to clutch at.

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Hoping that Wigan have an eye on the weekend (despite them not being expected to win the cup), and if they lose to Swansea tonight, and then lose the cup final, their players head might drop for their last 2 matches.

 

They play Arsenal away two days after the cup final, I can't see them getting a thing there, a heavy loss would be awesome. If they don't beat Swansea, then they have to beat Villa to have any hope of survival. Think there are some really key games coming up, obviously tonight's match plus Norwich v WBA, Villa v Chelsea, our game at QPR and Sunderland v Soton. The results of those games will probably decide who goes down. I would love to be going into that Arsenal game already safe, we need Swansea to get something tonight really.

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Damn just looked at the match report for the QPR game against Arsenal last Saturday on the BBC, looks like QPR actually played pretty well there and were unlucky not to get something, had more shots than Arsenal, a bit more worried now :(

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Damn just looked at the match report for the QPR game against Arsenal last Saturday on the BBC, looks like QPR actually played pretty well there and were unlucky not to get something, had more shots than Arsenal, a bit more worried now :(

 

I watched the first half, arsenal didnt really get out of first gear, the early goal kills the game as a proper contest.

 

Qpr looked dangerous on the counter, especially down the right.

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Damn just looked at the match report for the QPR game against Arsenal last Saturday on the BBC, looks like QPR actually played pretty well there and were unlucky not to get something, had more shots than Arsenal, a bit more worried now :(

 

Apart from the Remy shot late on, Arsenal were extremely comfortable i wouldn't pay attention to the stats if anything watching that game made me more comfortable.

 

QPR were terrible.

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Damn just looked at the match report for the QPR game against Arsenal last Saturday on the BBC, looks like QPR actually played pretty well there and were unlucky not to get something, had more shots than Arsenal, a bit more worried now :(

Arsenal didn't even try. Their LB had a rough time though.

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Damn just looked at the match report for the QPR game against Arsenal last Saturday on the BBC, looks like QPR actually played pretty well there and were unlucky not to get something, had more shots than Arsenal, a bit more worried now :(

Arsenal didn't even try. Their LB had a rough time though.

 

Townsend is fast. That's about it as far as QPRs threat from anywhere goes.

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You're still worried though right?

 

Course I'm worried, but I was pretty confident we would get at least one point (which might in the end be enough), reading the match report made be doubt that. Still think though we will be in serious shit if we don't win, assuming Wigan dispatch Swansea tonight.

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You're still worried though right?

 

I wonder if your optimism is stemming from wanting to be proven right about this whole Pardew thing, or you're genuinely this positive in real life, as then we should be friends :)

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You're still worried though right?

 

I wonder if your optimism is stemming from wanting to be proven right about this whole Pardew thing, or you're genuinely this positive in real life, as then we should be friends :)

 

You might have misunderstood me, I'm shitting myself.

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We all got to be positive and if we do get relegated. Life goes on and well continue to support and be a fan of this club as we always have.

 

Obviously, but fuck being relegated.

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Relegation this time seems like a much, much worse prospect to me. I think we kind of needed it last time and then we got lucky with Hughton doing such a great job and rebuilding. That isn't going to happen twice. Shitting it now.

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Relegation this time seems like a much, much worse prospect to me. I think we kind of needed it last time and then we got lucky with Hughton doing such a great job. That isn't going to happen twice. Shitting it now.

 

For sure, this time would be much worse. Just got to lay waste to QPR and it won't happen.

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You're still worried though right?

 

I wonder if your optimism is stemming from wanting to be proven right about this whole Pardew thing, or you're genuinely this positive in real life, as then we should be friends :)

 

You might have misunderstood me, I'm shitting myself.

 

As is everyone, i myself its all i think about i just want this season to be over so i can start relaxing again and enjoying myself at least for a few months :lol:

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Relegation this time seems like a much, much worse prospect to me. I think we kind of needed it last time and then we got lucky with Hughton doing such a great job. That isn't going to happen twice. Shitting it now.

 

I fully agree with this.

 

If (and it's a massive one) we stay up I don't think we'll be knocking about again at the bottom for a reasonable amount of time going forward, if we go down I think we're likely to get stuck down there due to the number of players that will want/need to leave unlike last time when fortunately not that many people wanted them.

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I woke up at 3am this morning, just couldn't get back to sleep thanks to Newcastle, thinking about all the possible permutations over the next couple of games.

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After the Chelsea game this seemed inconceivable, last time there was a real feeling of something to blame or an understandable cause for us going down, and that allowed the club to come back with a purpose. This time it's like we've sleepwalked through most of the season and woken up on the edge of a cliff, and so far it seems like the drowsiness hasn't lifted and we're going to head on over, while most of the other clubs are running away full pelt.

 

 

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Relegation this time seems like a much, much worse prospect to me. I think we kind of needed it last time and then we got lucky with Hughton doing such a great job. That isn't going to happen twice. Shitting it now.

 

I fully agree with this.

 

If (and it's a massive one) we stay up I don't think we'll be knocking about again at the bottom for a reasonable amount of time going forward, if we go down I think we're likely to get stuck down there due to the number of players that will want/need to leave unlike last time when fortunately not that many people wanted them.

 

It is a completely different situation and I agree the the relegation was kind of a cleansing process for the club. This time though there are not a lot (maybe just Ryan Taylor and perhaps Jonas) of poor players and ridiculous contracts, that relegation allows you the opportunity to get rid of. We are also in a healthy financial position and relegation won't cripple us. We have most of our players locked up on long term deals. There will be no need for a fire sale and the ownership having been through this once before will be pretty confident that we will just be in the lower tier for one year and reluctant to sell any players at cut price deals.

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Don't think that there will be any need for a fire sale this time around, but can't see many of our international players wanting to hang around in the lower leagues even just for a season in the run up to a World Cup.

 

Yup, that's what I was getting at. Due to the (now not so) clever recruitment we'll be able to turn a profit on all of them anyway you'd have thought despite the worst happening.

 

Keeping disenfranchised players at the club isn't going to benefit anyone as we've seen previously.

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