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[Spider Jerusalem]

Only teams worse than us are WBA and Burnley. The rest can easily beat us.

 

I'm not even sure we've got any superiority over these to be honest.  From their match against ManUre on Saturday Burnley looked perfectly capable of turning us over and taking at least 4 points in our two matches.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Think we'll be fine, to be honest. Mid-table again, around 11th or 12th. We'll do well in games where we're the counter-attacking team. The problem remains when sides come up here and we can't break them down, it's something we've been terrible at for some time. If only we had an accomplished dribbler to complement our new playmaker and goalscoring attacking midfielder.

 

The annoying thing is, we were actually close to having a decent blend in our forward line. Obviously, we are lacking a top quality forward but a 3 of HBA, Cabella and de Jong would've been great and provided enough ammo for even a half-decent striker to get 10 goals. Good mix of talents there. Banking on Aarons to basically fill HBA's boots now, I reckon. Oh well, c***s.

 

Not having a go but we got very lucky last season due to so many clubs having their worst seasons in ages. In all honesty who can we possibly beat under Pardew? I'd say we're on the level of Q.P.R but with the sad fact that despite all his flaws Redknapp is a million miles better than Pardew. What teams can we beat? Swansea will rape us, Hull will rape us, the Mackems will rape us.

 

Only teams worse than us are WBA and Burnley. The rest can easily beat us.

 

Will follow this up with: Where's the goals going to come from?

 

Nobody's going to match Remy's 14, that's for sure. But I think one of our current striking bunch could scrape 10 over the course of the year. I do believe we have more goals throughout the rest of the squad than we had last campaign, though. The midfield and the bench, in particular. Not great, of course, but enough to secure something fairly mid-table. It all rests on keeping key players fit though, which is the massive gamble.

 

We've already played Villa and Palace and not lost to either. Neither results were good, Palace especially, but I think it shows it's an even playing field. We're about level with or slightly better than 8 or so teams, in my opinion.

[maze]

Think we'll be fine, to be honest. Mid-table again, around 11th or 12th. We'll do well in games where we're the counter-attacking team. The problem remains when sides come up here and we can't break them down, it's something we've been terrible at for some time. If only we had an accomplished dribbler to complement our new playmaker and goalscoring attacking midfielder.

 

The annoying thing is, we were actually close to having a decent blend in our forward line. Obviously, we are lacking a top quality forward but a 3 of HBA, Cabella and de Jong would've been great and provided enough ammo for even a half-decent striker to get 10 goals. Good mix of talents there. Banking on Aarons to basically fill HBA's boots now, I reckon. Oh well, c***s.

 

Not having a go but we got very lucky last season due to so many clubs having their worst seasons in ages. In all honesty who can we possibly beat under Pardew? I'd say we're on the level of Q.P.R but with the sad fact that despite all his flaws Redknapp is a million miles better than Pardew. What teams can we beat? Swansea will rape us, Hull will rape us, the Mackems will rape us.

 

Only teams worse than us are WBA and Burnley. The rest can easily beat us.

 

Will follow this up with: Where's the goals going to come from?

 

Nobody's going to match Remy's 14, that's for sure. But I think one of our current striking bunch could scrape 10 over the course of the year. I do believe we have more goals throughout the rest of the squad than we had last campaign, though. The midfield and the bench, in particular. Not great, of course, but enough to secure something fairly mid-table. It all rests on keeping key players fit though, which is the massive gamble.

 

We've already played Villa and Palace and not lost to either. Neither results were good, Palace especially, but I think it shows it's an even playing field. We're about level with or slightly better than 8 or so teams, in my opinion.

 

I see what you're trying to say, but I have to disagree. Eventhough it is just three games in to this season, I really struggle to see how any of the current strikers are going to pose a threat. It is not as easy as 'counting' the goals or 'getting close to Remy'. If those goals aren't getting you a win, it really does make a difference. But, I do hope I'm proven wrong. 

[captainhaircut]

I find it astonishing that you can still get 10/1 on us to go down.

 

No goals, unable to defend and already 4 points down on the same games last year. I can genuinely see us getting to the new year having not won a game- we're that badly mismanaged.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Think we'll be fine, to be honest. Mid-table again, around 11th or 12th. We'll do well in games where we're the counter-attacking team. The problem remains when sides come up here and we can't break them down, it's something we've been terrible at for some time. If only we had an accomplished dribbler to complement our new playmaker and goalscoring attacking midfielder.

 

The annoying thing is, we were actually close to having a decent blend in our forward line. Obviously, we are lacking a top quality forward but a 3 of HBA, Cabella and de Jong would've been great and provided enough ammo for even a half-decent striker to get 10 goals. Good mix of talents there. Banking on Aarons to basically fill HBA's boots now, I reckon. Oh well, c***s.

 

Not having a go but we got very lucky last season due to so many clubs having their worst seasons in ages. In all honesty who can we possibly beat under Pardew? I'd say we're on the level of Q.P.R but with the sad fact that despite all his flaws Redknapp is a million miles better than Pardew. What teams can we beat? Swansea will rape us, Hull will rape us, the Mackems will rape us.

 

Only teams worse than us are WBA and Burnley. The rest can easily beat us.

 

Will follow this up with: Where's the goals going to come from?

 

Nobody's going to match Remy's 14, that's for sure. But I think one of our current striking bunch could scrape 10 over the course of the year. I do believe we have more goals throughout the rest of the squad than we had last campaign, though. The midfield and the bench, in particular. Not great, of course, but enough to secure something fairly mid-table. It all rests on keeping key players fit though, which is the massive gamble.

 

We've already played Villa and Palace and not lost to either. Neither results were good, Palace especially, but I think it shows it's an even playing field. We're about level with or slightly better than 8 or so teams, in my opinion.

 

I see what you're trying to say, but I have to disagree. Eventhough it is just three games in to this season, I really struggle to see how any of the current strikers are going to pose a threat. It is not as easy as 'counting' the goals or 'getting close to Remy'. If those goals aren't getting you a win, it really does make a difference. But, I do hope I'm proven wrong. 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

[Mick]

 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

 

We've had an open match, we lost that one 0-2.

[Mole_Toonfan]

If Pardew is here come May, we'll finish 16th at best.

 

Relegation could very easily happen IMO.

 

[Gallowgate Toon]

 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

 

We've had an open match, we lost that one 0-2.

 

Yes, one game where one of the most potent players on our books wasn't playing. Like I said, we'll see over a succession of games. The new players deserve some time.

[Wullie]

 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

 

We've had an open match, we lost that one 0-2.

 

Yes, one game where one of the most potent players on our books wasn't playing. Like I said, we'll see over a succession of games. The new players deserve some time.

 

He's just signed for Hull mate.

[mrmojorisin75]

 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

 

We've had an open match, we lost that one 0-2.

 

Yes, one game where one of the most potent players on our books wasn't playing. Like I said, we'll see over a succession of games. The new players deserve some time.

 

you seriously can't see that we simply have no plan to get people forward to support the striker under any circumstances? to attack effectively as a unit and get midfielders beyond the striker to create space for him regardless of who is playing?

 

our "plan" will be for cabella, de jong and riviere to do it all themselves while the rest of them sit back so we don't get done on the counter, it's been this way for nearly 4 years, the difference has been until now pardew has had strikers who can score from nothing (ba) or are clinical enough to take the few scraps that come their way (remy)

 

everyone can see we're playing the same old game (including the opposition), it's so fucking obvious and it's not going to change

[Dr Venkman]

We'll see over a succession of games

[jake_horne76]

I find it astonishing that you can still get 10/1 on us to go down.

 

No goals, unable to defend and already 4 points down on the same games last year. I can genuinely see us getting to the new year having not won a game- we're that badly mismanaged.

 

Where can you get 10/1?

[Varadi]

I find it astonishing that you can still get 10/1 on us to go down.

 

No goals, unable to defend and already 4 points down on the same games last year. I can genuinely see us getting to the new year having not won a game- we're that badly mismanaged.

 

Where can you get 10/1?

 

Looks like Ladbrokes is the only one still has 10's:

 

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

 

 

[Gallowgate Toon]

 

 

The strikers have barely been given any space over the last 2 games, to be fair, both Villa and Palace defended very deep. We'll see how they fare in more open matches.

 

We've had an open match, we lost that one 0-2.

 

Yes, one game where one of the most potent players on our books wasn't playing. Like I said, we'll see over a succession of games. The new players deserve some time.

 

you seriously can't see that we simply have no plan to get people forward to support the striker under any circumstances? to attack effectively as a unit and get midfielders beyond the striker to create space for him regardless of who is playing?

 

our "plan" will be for cabella, de jong and riviere to do it all themselves while the rest of them sit back so we don't get done on the counter, it's been this way for nearly 4 years, the difference has been until now pardew has had strikers who can score from nothing (ba) or are clinical enough to take the few scraps that come their way (remy)

 

everyone can see we're playing the same old game (including the opposition), it's so f***ing obvious and it's not going to change

 

I never said anything about solid plans or whatever. I still think we have some good attacking players who'll make it work in games where there's more space,  as that's what they're suited to.

 

This isn't at all pro-Pardew, it'll be in spite of him because he's not clever enough to coach teams to create their own space etc.

[maze]

Knock, Knock - Who's there?

[Guest palnese]

Three shite CBs and not a single decent striker. We're going to struggle badly this season.

[cp40]

looking a real possibilty already.

[NG32]

We cant score goals and concede way to many, from the last 20 minutes I watched we looked all over the place.  Listening tot he radion Anderson and the fat one were saying we looked awful.  I think Ashley has gambled on not paying money for a decent forward and it has massivley backfired.

 

 

[Skeletor]

Infinity out of 10

[sempuki]

Doomed with Pardew.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'm starting to worry whether even a new manager can get us out of it TBH. Trying to have faith in the few quality players we've got.

[George Bailey]

That league table ...jesus wept.

[timeEd32]

A couple wins and it's straight back to the top 10. That's why Ashley needs to act now.

 

A new manager, assuming it's not someone like Carver/Kinnear, will have such a remarkable impact.

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

There is still enough quality here for there to be a big boost and turnaround with the appointment of a new manager. Wasting another winnable home match with the current idiot at the helm would be extremely inadvisable, though. 4 matches will turn to ten and fifteen quicker than anyone realises and we need to have a significant number of points on the board by these milestones. Action should occur now. Tonight, in fact.

[Spider Jerusalem]

In our rightful position at the moment as THE worst 'team' in the league.

 

Ashley is again going to prove he doesn't give a fuck about the performance of Newcastle by keeping his puppet in charge.  To be honest, right now I couldn't give a fuck if we get relegated followed by the same next year as at the moment I actually hate the club.