Spudil Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. I like to disagree sometimes too, just to keep things interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Think we are absolutely fucked. We have let Hull off the hook and given them a reprieve against a Manure side that will have absolutely nothing to play for. Hull have a huge psychological advantage, where we have no piled all the pressure on against albeit west ham side in horrible form, but wanting to break that loss streak. We will crumble..we will likely lose or draw will Hull beat Manure... possibly. Anything other than a win and we could he screwed. Scary times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Still think Sunderland are well in it, they could easily conceed 5 goals against Chelsea and Arsenal. A point for us will put us above them based on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. What do you do for a living again? 1/10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Still think Sunderland are well in it, they could easily conceed 5 goals against Chelsea and Arsenal. A point for us will put us above them based on that. of coarse that relies on us getting a point which seems optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The forums becoming a toxic place with things like Stifler's post and the subsequent reactions and personal attacks and the "tell me to fuck off in person" knuckle-flexing. I understand that frustrations (passions!) are running high right now but divisions amongst ourselves is the worst thing we can do if we want Ashley out. It's literally the only way he will win. Let's focus on the practical ways to get rid of the fat fuck. Come what may on Sunday, there needs to be a massive fucklong protest that makes the world take notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The forums becoming a toxic place with things like Stifler's post and the subsequent reactions and personal attacks and the "tell me to fuck off in person" knuckle-flexing. I understand that frustrations (passions!) are running high right now but divisions amongst ourselves is the worst thing we can do if we want Ashley out. It's literally the only way he will win. Let's focus on the practical ways to get rid of the fat fuck. Come what may on Sunday, there needs to be a massive fucklong protest that makes the world take notice. The football bit's been toxic and divisive for quite some time, and I tend to avoid it tbh. I'm really only replying to applaud the invention of the word "fucklong", of which I innately know the meaning somehow. Well played. The Chat board's much less angst-ridden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 It'll come down to the Hull match as we are clearly incapable of winning a match. I'd imagine I'll still feel a bit gutted if we go down next weekend but to be honest I feel so far removed from NUFC and football in general right now that I'm all a bit numb/apathetic to it. The club serves no purpose at the moment so there's not much point being in the premier league anyway. Also the way the club is being run you feel we'd probably go down next season anyway. Had the club brought in a manager even in a temporary basis with even the vaguest if clues in january we wouldn't be anywhere near this situation. We might scrape a point next weekend but I can honestly just see another defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is the table the Monday after El Pards left. The fucking state of it. 13 points clear of Leicester,10 points clear of Hull. Absolutely shocking by Carver to get in this mess. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/11_zpsztwzcqft.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is the table the Monday after El Pards left. The f***ing state of it. 13 points clear of Leicester,10 points clear of Hull. Absolutely shocking by Carver to get in this mess. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/11_zpsztwzcqft.png Only a special kind of manager could do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is the table the Monday after El Pards left. The f***ing state of it. 13 points clear of Leicester,10 points clear of Hull. Absolutely shocking by Carver to get in this mess. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/11_zpsztwzcqft.png We were closer to Europe than relegation back then! Only Carver could of got us into this mess, even a very average coach would of kept us in the top 13-15! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 To think that in 18 games he's only achieved 8 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Look at the astonishing job Pardew was doing. It's all our fault for forcing him out etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 To think that in 18 games he's only achieved 8 points. Depressing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 7/1 on SkyBet. Having a few quid on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 7/1 on SkyBet. Having a few quid on that. I was thinking the same but i don't care enough about us staying up so it's just not worth it. Losing money on us staying up i mean.. Hmm..If you know what i mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 To be honest, I also do not understand the "i hope we get relegated" stance. If we battled our way to an FA Cup final with 1-0 wins against League 2 teams, would people want us to lose the final because it would be embarrassing to win? Relegation will not get rid of Ashley, 50,000 empty seats will not get rid of Ashley... someone to walk in with an acceptable offer is the only way to get rid of Ashley. I completely agree that next week should be 90+ minutes of creating an atmosphere followed by a sit-in protest at our season/the way the club is being ran. I hate the way our club is at the moment, but I certainly will celebrate on Sunday if we survive - I wont clap off the players and blow kisses at them, but I'll be delighted to have came through such an awful period. Yey! We survived another season so we get a chance to survive another season again next year. Hurray!! Woop woop. Against the other option of "yay, we've been relegation so we get the chance to possibly come back up and then have the chance to survive again"? What do people want? Us to be a Championship club forever? With the squad we have, we're not going to be fighting for anything near the top 8 spots. I think people need to get realistic and realise this - it is going to take major improvements for this to happen. People have short memories, we were a Championship club not long ago - our club has been murdered under Ashley for years. We're not going to be magically fixed and healed the day he leaves. On this day, we are fighting relegation - forgive me if I am happy that we do. Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. I agree, nothing will change if we stay up. That's from the top, everything you listed is down to the tosser in charge of our club. But going down, is more likely to have a negative effect than positive. When we went down last time, did anything change? Did anything change when we came back up? No, because the same fat tosser is in charge. Would Ashley sell if we went down? Definitely not, he'd make a bigger loss and he's a business man that only cares about his pocket. He wants £x amount for us and will not sell until he gets offered it. There is no way anybody would pay that for a Championship team. Even if we go down, we protest, we burn down Ashley's home - we can make him want to sell, but we cant make somebody buy us. We've in effect been for sale for the past 3/4/5 years, if Ashley was given an acceptable offer for us at any point he'd have snatched their hand off. But he hasn't. The only possible positive I can see from going down, is the cheaper games and fact we might win a few. Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. Agree with most of that apart from us being up for sale for the past 3/4/5 years. In effect the club isn't for sale unless somebody is stupid enough to pay way over its market value due to the greediness of Ashley and the way he has the debt constructed. In simple terms it's like me putting my house on the market for £500k, aye it's for sale but I'm very unlikely to find a buyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Need Manure to beat Arsenal today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalToon Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is the table the Monday after El Pards left. The f***ing state of it. 13 points clear of Leicester,10 points clear of Hull. Absolutely shocking by Carver to get in this mess. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/11_zpsztwzcqft.png The great escape to championship by Carver... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 you know in many other business's (or Italy) you would come to an "arrangement" with some people to ensure we stay up - might be a few grand out of next years PL money but...................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is the table the Monday after El Pards left. The f***ing state of it. 13 points clear of Leicester,10 points clear of Hull. Absolutely shocking by Carver to get in this mess. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/11_zpsztwzcqft.png Under 18 games with John Carver:- We've achieved a grand total of 8 points. Our goal difference has gone from -6 to -25. We've fallen 7 places in the league. The team who were bottom of the league, 13 points below us, are now two places and 3 points ahead. John Carver, a good man who cares about the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wish I didn't care but I'm fucking low about this state of affairs. Furious with the twats at the top for pressing the stop button halfway through the season to save money. Stupid cunts of the highest order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wish I didn't care but I'm f***ing low about this state of affairs. Furious with the t***s at the top for pressing the stop button halfway through the season to save money. Stupid c***s of the highest order. I was fucking foaming yesterday like. Still am today to a lesser degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 All those saying nothing will change if we stay up don't know that anymore than those saying nothing will change if we are relegated. It's conjecture on both sides. Mike Ashley seems to have never heard the saying "Don't spoil the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar". The tragedy of our situation is that Nufc wouldn't be that hard or (relatively) expensive to run successfully. All he had to do was employ people who were qualified for their jobs. The costs would easily be covered by the increased revenue from finishing higher up the league. You'd think that man was an utter cretin if it wasn't for the fact of how successful SD is. He could have been loved (or at least liked) but his stupidity and tight fistedness have made him hated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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