Guest Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's pretty easy to say the other two have 'only' got Everton & Watford etc, but both of those teams are far better than Sunderland & Norwich. If results go to how we've all performed over the season, we stay up. Watford definitely aren't far better. Have lost to Palace and barely beat Villa in the last week They're 12th in the table just a few points off the top half. They're miles better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm 50/50 on it. My gut feeling is we're staying up. Beat Villa and hopefully Spurs will have 2nd wrapped up and their foot off the gas a bit, so could sneak a win from that too. I'm probably being overly optimistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alberto2005 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's pretty easy to say the other two have 'only' got Everton & Watford etc, but both of those teams are far better than Sunderland & Norwich. If results go to how we've all performed over the season, we stay up. Watford definitely aren't far better. Have lost to Palace and barely beat Villa in the last week They're 12th in the table just a few points off the top half. They're miles better. I think that's a bad way of looking at things. Are Watford miles better than us then? I don't think so. Sunderland are playing much better now than at the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Not inconceivable we could be safe before the last game. A win for us and Sunderland to lose to Chelsea and Everton, plus a Norwich fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's pretty easy to say the other two have 'only' got Everton & Watford etc, but both of those teams are far better than Sunderland & Norwich. If results go to how we've all performed over the season, we stay up. Watford definitely aren't far better. Have lost to Palace and barely beat Villa in the last week They're 12th in the table just a few points off the top half. They're miles better. Not lately they haven't been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Massive win today. Mackems are slight favs to stay up, but we have a decent chance. Would never have believed we'd get 8 points from next 4 games after that Southampton match. FFS if we'd got Rafa in for Stoke game, we'd probably have 4 points more and be practically safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Our best hope is that no one gift wraps Sunderland points, Norwich were the better team against them until the penalty decision, and by all accounts they would have been beaten today if it wasn't for another dodgy penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's pretty easy to say the other two have 'only' got Everton & Watford etc, but both of those teams are far better than Sunderland & Norwich. If results go to how we've all performed over the season, we stay up. Watford definitely aren't far better. Have lost to Palace and barely beat Villa in the last week They're 12th in the table just a few points off the top half. They're miles better. I think that's a bad way of looking at things. Are Watford miles better than us then? I don't think so. Sunderland are playing much better now than at the start of the season. We haven't had Benitez all season but up to that point, of course they were. Sunderland have had Allardyce most of the season and find themselves in the bottom three. They're a very poor team and where they are for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'd actually feel pretty confident right now if Sunderland hadn't equalised. The mackems aren't winning games, I'll be happy for them to draw their remaining games. They've only won 7 all season, and in 3 of them the opponents had a man sent off early doors. That's 4 wins against teams with 11 men all season. They're dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Us, Chelsea and Man U to win next weekend and we're safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sunderland are going to draw their way to relegation, Norwich are too up and down, we just need to remain calm and do what we can do and we'll be safe. Down to a 5 after today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Us, Chelsea and Man U to win next weekend and we're safe. Nah. That'd be great but 4 points from their last week would still see sunderland safe if we lost to spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Us, Chelsea and Man U to win next weekend and we're safe. Nah. That'd be great but 4 points from their last week would still see sunderland safe if we lost to spurs. We're not planning on losing to Spurs and we'll not, we'll win simply because we'll have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Great results today. This will be very close, and I think we will need 2 wins from our last 2 games to reach 39 points and probably GD -23 or so. If we get this, I cant see us going down. Norwich can now reach 40 points maximum, with a home game against Man Utd to play. If they get 2 wins and a draw that would take them to 38. We would have the edge on GD over them if we finished level on points. Sunderland can reach 41 points maximum, with a home game against Chelsea still to play. Realistically, they probably wont get 3 wins but 2 wins and a draw isn't beyond the realms of possibility. That would keep them up on GD- meaning the goal for them today was massive. A bit of the pressure is off after today, and now 2 more massive games against a woeful Villa side (with a player sent off today) and a Tottenham side with probably nothing to play for and minus a key player. I fancy us to scrape a win at Villa and then throw the kitchen sink at Spurs at SJP- it could happen. For me, if we get those 6 points, I'd see Norwich as all but down and it would be us or Sunderland. Both us and Sunderland are down the bottom for a reason, and so the "occasion" and "passion" and "support" wont really make earning the points a given. I could see Sunderland getting 5 but not 7 points from their 3 fixtures meaning we would need the 6 points from our 2 fixtures. Get them and I think we'll stay up. Fail to do so, and I think we go down. I'd fancy us to get 6 points more than Sunderland to get 7 or 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Great results today. This will be very close, and I think we will need 2 wins from our last 2 games to reach 39 points and probably GD -23 or so. If we get this, I cant see us going down. Norwich can now reach 40 points maximum, with a home game against Man Utd to play. If they get 2 wins and a draw that would take them to 38. We would have the edge on GD over them if we finished level on points. Sunderland can reach 41 points maximum, with a home game against Chelsea still to play. Realistically, they probably wont get 3 wins but 2 wins and a draw isn't beyond the realms of possibility. That would keep them up on GD- meaning the goal for them today was massive. A bit of the pressure is off after today, and now 2 more massive games against a woeful Villa side (with a player sent off today) and a Tottenham side with probably nothing to play for and minus a key player. I fancy us to scrape a win at Villa and then throw the kitchen sink at Spurs at SJP- it could happen. For me, if we get those 6 points, I'd see Norwich as all but down and it would be us or Sunderland. Both us and Sunderland are down the bottom for a reason, and so the "occasion" and "passion" and "support" wont really make earning the points a given. I could see Sunderland getting 5 but not 7 points from their 3 fixtures meaning we would need the 6 points from our 2 fixtures. Get them and I think we'll stay up. Fail to do so, and I think we go down. I'd fancy us to get 6 points more than Sunderland to get 7 or 9. Our reason is now on the dole though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Tim Sherwood and Jamie Redknapp both think we're staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 We're down then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Tim Sherwood and Jamie Redknapp both think we're staying up. Unfortunately they just see whichever way the wind is blowing and talk some shit. Its the same squad that has played under the rest and still has significant limitations, which is why I think beating Spurs will be difficult, but with a bit of heart and bit of luck it could well come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Tim Sherwood and Jamie Redknapp both think we're staying up. Both of them look to see who's top of the pile and say that's who it will be, it happens too often in relegation battles where people just say 'It will end as it is'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 6.5 It's still not in our hands yet but it's getting better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Tim Sherwood and Jamie Redknapp both think we're staying up. Both of them look to see who's top of the pile and say that's who it will be, it happens too often in relegation battles where people just say 'It will end as it is'. And then whoever stays up, they will obviously say they backed them all along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sherwood was on Match of the Day 2 just after Rafa was appointed and he was saying Sunderland will stay up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Norwich can certainly get 6 points. Depends how broken they are after today. Anything other than a win next week and we are down. The hope is still there but it's not in our own hands unless we beat villa and Chelsea win next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Norwich looked alright against Arsenal but they still don't look like a side desperate to get points to me. They just lack a bit of extra, whatever the hell that means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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