Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Whitley mag]

Ignore those who champion a failed takeover !!

 

 

 

[Whitley mag]

[RS]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

[Whitley mag]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

[Whitley mag]

[Shearergol]

“Everyone involved wants this”

 

Apart from the PL, the big six and BEIN

[manorpark]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

 

It is difficult to tolerate the 'quiet / no news' situation that we are in right now. Believe me, I experience that too!

 

Sometimes, that lack of news makes people think that nothing is happening and that the takeover is 'being forgotten about' - so will not succeed. The long wait seems endless . . .

 

Whenever that thought occurs to me I think about the people who are ACTIVELY involved in getting this done - Staveley, The Reubens, PIF, Ashley (yes Ashley!!) Di Marco, The Newcastle Consortium Supporters . . . and so I KNOW that we will win.

 

We will win.

 

And boy will we deserve it by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alberto2005]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

 

It is difficult to tolerate the 'quiet / no news' situation that we are in right now. Believe me, I experience that too!

 

Sometimes, that lack of news makes people think that nothing is happening and that the takeover is 'being forgotten about' - so will not succeed. The long wait seems endless . . .

 

Whenever that thought occurs to me I think about the people who are ACTIVELY involved in getting this done - Staveley, The Reubens, PIF, Ashley (yes Ashley!!) Di Marco, The Newcastle Consortium Supporters . . . and so I KNOW that we will win.

 

We will win.

 

And boy will we deserve it by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would Amanda Staveley give you confidence that the takeover will happen when over 3 years since she first tried to buy the club she still hasn't succeeded?

[samag]

Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can.

 

I'm not saying it will/won't happen.

 

But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them?

 

If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country.

 

Why would Newcastle vote against it?

Maybe because  Ashley believes Bein cost him over 300 million pounds .

[Wilson]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

 

It is difficult to tolerate the 'quiet / no news' situation that we are in right now. Believe me, I experience that too!

 

Sometimes, that lack of news makes people think that nothing is happening and that the takeover is 'being forgotten about' - so will not succeed. The long wait seems endless . . .

 

Whenever that thought occurs to me I think about the people who are ACTIVELY involved in getting this done - Staveley, The Reubens, PIF, Ashley (yes Ashley!!) Di Marco, The Newcastle Consortium Supporters . . . and so I KNOW that we will win.

 

We will win.

 

And boy will we deserve it by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would Amanda Staveley give you confidence that the takeover will happen when over 3 years since she first tried to buy the club she still hasn't succeeded?

 

Is that her fault?

 

I look at it from a different angle, she's been stopped from buying it for 3 years and still hasn't gone away.  She seems pretty determined to get what she wants.

 

Don't get me wrong I think this deal is unlikely to happen now but that's nothing to do with staveley.

[Whitley mag]

‘Some clubs are hell bent on stopping this happen’.

 

This is why the arbitration needs to be transparent, couple this with the crooked Qatari’s still being in bed with the PL, it’s clear that the consortium want this to be as public as possible. All these updates from NCSL are as official an update as we can expect of where we’re currently at.

 

This is a snippet from Ian Mearns in the Chronicle last night -

 

Mr Mearns, a season ticket holder at Newcastle United, says the majority of his constituents to have contacted him regarding the takeover are seeking answers from the Premier League - and he feels they are right to do so.

 

"People are looking for transparency from the Premier League, whether we can get that via the Government - I don't mind how we do that.

 

"They are looking for genuine answers and want to know why the club they support seems to be being treated differently in terms of their aspirations for someone to buy it, then other Premier League clubs have been treated in the past.

 

"There does seem to be areas of vested interest within the Premier League from within some clubs which seem hellbent on preventing this takeover from happening."

 

[Scoot]

‘Some clubs are hell bent on stopping this happen’.

 

This is why the arbitration needs to be transparent, couple this with the crooked Qatari’s still being in bed with the PL, it’s clear that the consortium want this to be as public as possible. All these updates from NCSL are as official an update as we can expect of where we’re currently at.

 

This is a snippet from Ian Mearns in the Chronicle last night -

 

Mr Mearns, a season ticket holder at Newcastle United, says the majority of his constituents to have contacted him regarding the takeover are seeking answers from the Premier League - and he feels they are right to do so.

 

"People are looking for transparency from the Premier League, whether we can get that via the Government - I don't mind how we do that.

 

"They are looking for genuine answers and want to know why the club they support seems to be being treated differently in terms of their aspirations for someone to buy it, then other Premier League clubs have been treated in the past.

 

"There does seem to be areas of vested interest within the Premier League from within some clubs which seem hellbent on preventing this takeover from happening."

 

 

Hopefully the transparency happens but as fans, not sure what WE can do about that apart from email our MP's again. They keep going on about how fans must keep pressure on and I fail to see how we can do that really.

[Alberto2005]

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

 

It is difficult to tolerate the 'quiet / no news' situation that we are in right now. Believe me, I experience that too!

 

Sometimes, that lack of news makes people think that nothing is happening and that the takeover is 'being forgotten about' - so will not succeed. The long wait seems endless . . .

 

Whenever that thought occurs to me I think about the people who are ACTIVELY involved in getting this done - Staveley, The Reubens, PIF, Ashley (yes Ashley!!) Di Marco, The Newcastle Consortium Supporters . . . and so I KNOW that we will win.

 

We will win.

 

And boy will we deserve it by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would Amanda Staveley give you confidence that the takeover will happen when over 3 years since she first tried to buy the club she still hasn't succeeded?

 

Is that her fault?

 

I look at it from a different angle, she's been stopped from buying it for 3 years and still hasn't gone away.  She seems pretty determined to get what she wants.

 

Don't get me wrong I think this deal is unlikely to happen now but that's nothing to do with staveley.

Well not really, if the people she's seeking investment from tend to be people the Premier League don't want owning football clubs then I would say that's a pretty big issue when it comes to assessing our chances of the takeover been successful.

[Whitley mag]

‘Some clubs are hell bent on stopping this happen’.

 

This is why the arbitration needs to be transparent, couple this with the crooked Qatari’s still being in bed with the PL, it’s clear that the consortium want this to be as public as possible. All these updates from NCSL are as official an update as we can expect of where we’re currently at.

 

This is a snippet from Ian Mearns in the Chronicle last night -

 

Mr Mearns, a season ticket holder at Newcastle United, says the majority of his constituents to have contacted him regarding the takeover are seeking answers from the Premier League - and he feels they are right to do so.

 

"People are looking for transparency from the Premier League, whether we can get that via the Government - I don't mind how we do that.

 

"They are looking for genuine answers and want to know why the club they support seems to be being treated differently in terms of their aspirations for someone to buy it, then other Premier League clubs have been treated in the past.

 

"There does seem to be areas of vested interest within the Premier League from within some clubs which seem hellbent on preventing this takeover from happening."

 

 

Hopefully the transparency happens but as fans, not sure what WE can do about that apart from email our MP's again. They keep going on about how fans must keep pressure on and I fail to see how we can do that really.

 

Not sure either but this is where NCSL should be backed to the hilt, they are doing a great job of keeping us unofficially in the picture, and trying to keep the pressure on in public.

 

It’s in the govts manifesto to look at football governance, so any pressure through MP’s can have a cumulative impact. Who’s to say the govt don’t take the PL’s ability to decide ownership away from them and appoint an independent body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Paully]

https://theathletic.co.uk/2268674/2020/12/18/newcastle-tv-deal-takeover/

 

Those on the buying side remain adamant that nothing has materially changed with the new TV deal. Ashley and Newcastle, through arbitration, are contesting the Premier League’s Owners’ and Directors’ Test, which failed to approve the prospective takeover.

 

While the club has confirmed that it “has issued arbitration proceedings against the EPL”, it has not revealed what form this legal action will take, insisting they will not comment on its “substance”. However, what is clear is that it is part of their attempts to force through the takeover, or at the very least seek further answers or extract some form of compensation from the Premier League.

The Athletic understands the Saudis remain determined to buy Newcastle, despite having officially withdrawn the bid in July, but they will only retable their offer if a pathway towards approval is unveiled.

Newcastle had hoped for positive progress in September following political pressure and government involvement. Since then, Ashley has hired Nick de Marco and Shaheed Fatima, both QCs, to lead his case in his and the club’s dispute with the Premier League.

 

When the arbitration process will be concluded, and what the outcome will be, remain frustratingly unclear, though.

Newcastle Consortium Supporters Ltd (NCSL) — a group of fans who have launched legal action of their own — are also keeping the pressure on the Premier League.

 

[James]

Regarding our vote against the MENA deal yesterday, legally had to be done as further down the line this vote might be used against us in court.

 

Hence I’m not reading too much into this, it was the logical next step.

[Wilson]

 

 

Whitley and Manors are the consortium supporters.

 

I’ll champion this to the day it’s officially dead. I think what’s clear here is that the MP involvement is about transparency. The major fear im picking up on is that they’re worried the PL will try and dismiss this via a closed doors panel with no transparency.

 

These lads are trying to keep the public pressure on, and as a fanbase we should be doing everything to support this.

 

The clubs dead as a dodo if this doesn’t go through.

 

 

It is difficult to tolerate the 'quiet / no news' situation that we are in right now. Believe me, I experience that too!

 

Sometimes, that lack of news makes people think that nothing is happening and that the takeover is 'being forgotten about' - so will not succeed. The long wait seems endless . . .

 

Whenever that thought occurs to me I think about the people who are ACTIVELY involved in getting this done - Staveley, The Reubens, PIF, Ashley (yes Ashley!!) Di Marco, The Newcastle Consortium Supporters . . . and so I KNOW that we will win.

 

We will win.

 

And boy will we deserve it by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would Amanda Staveley give you confidence that the takeover will happen when over 3 years since she first tried to buy the club she still hasn't succeeded?

 

Is that her fault?

 

I look at it from a different angle, she's been stopped from buying it for 3 years and still hasn't gone away.  She seems pretty determined to get what she wants.

 

Don't get me wrong I think this deal is unlikely to happen now but that's nothing to do with staveley.

Well not really, if the people she's seeking investment from tend to be people the Premier League don't want owning football clubs then I would say that's a pretty big issue when it comes to assessing our chances of the takeover been successful.

 

The premier league shouldn't have an issue with them, again, it's not her fault she hasn't been able to get a breakthrough... first Ashley now the PL/bein/cunt 6.

 

The fact she's still trying after 3 years should be enough to show she's not the time waster some would like to portray.

[Jackie Broon]

I just don't get the benefit these calls for transparency, it's just so vague and easy to bat away because O&D test and arbitration are fundamentally confidential processes. Also, MP's can't be seen to be influencing the judiciary so it's pointless asking for them to intervene in NCSL's case.

 

Surely it would be better to concentrate on concrete things like asking MPs to put pressure on the PL to act in accordance with its own rules and make a formal decision or on stuff the government can actually influence, like an investigation by the Competition and Markets Authority.

[bowlingcrofty]

I just don't get the benefit these calls for transparency, it's just so vague and easy to bat away because O&D test and arbitration are fundamentally confidential processes. Also, MP's can't be seen to be influencing the judiciary so it's pointless asking for them to intervene in NCSL's case.

 

Surely it would be better to concentrate on concrete things like asking MPs to put pressure on the PL to act in accordance with its own rules and make a formal decision or on stuff the government can actually influence, like an investigation by the Competition and Markets Authority.

 

That'll be what the actual QCs are doing, I'd guess.

 

The pressure from the fans/NCSL is about keeping it in the public eye and making the PL realise they can't just squirm out of it because there is evidence available that they've not been entirely open and honest in their actions.

 

That's my take on this anyway.

[Strawberry]

 

In more pressing issue for the Saudis this week they lost their bid to host the 2030 Asian games to Qatar.

 

You can read it below it was very contentious they manage to get the next tournament. The only way I see this go through is when Qatar and Saudi make peace and Qatar tell Masters it is okay you can go ahead. 

 

 

https://www.riyadhbureau.com/p/saudi-qatar-asian-games

[Jackie Broon]

I just don't get the benefit these calls for transparency, it's just so vague and easy to bat away because O&D test and arbitration are fundamentally confidential processes. Also, MP's can't be seen to be influencing the judiciary so it's pointless asking for them to intervene in NCSL's case.

 

Surely it would be better to concentrate on concrete things like asking MPs to put pressure on the PL to act in accordance with its own rules and make a formal decision or on stuff the government can actually influence, like an investigation by the Competition and Markets Authority.

 

That'll be what the actual QCs are doing, I'd guess.

 

The pressure from the fans/NCSL is about keeping it in the public eye and making the PL realise they can't just squirm out of it because there is evidence available that they've not been entirely open and honest in their actions.

 

That's my take on this anyway.

 

But it seems pointless, the vague call for transparency is just so easy for the PL to squirm out of.

 

The PL's line has been 'we couldn't make a decision because they wouldn't provide the information on other directors and PIF have withdrawn now' and the public, government and supporter groups' response was essentially 'fair enough'.

 

They've never really been publicly challenged on that, the PL have continued with that line and it's been parroted in government and MP responses, without question. But it's blatantly contrary to their O&D test rules, which not only allow them to make a decision on the basis (disqualifying the other directors) but require them to have made a decision well before PIF withdrew.

 

A legal challenge of that process would possibly take years and in the court of public opinion 'you broke your own rules' is a much stronger message  than some vague call for transparency of a process that fundamentally can't be transparent.

[Whitley mag]

Some right fucking defeatist cunts amongst our support.

 

[Whitley mag]

Here’s another fucking limp biscuit, whatever happened to Newcastle United will never be defeated.

 

[Consortium of one]

 

In more pressing issue for the Saudis this week they lost their bid to host the 2030 Asian games to Qatar.

 

You can read it below it was very contentious they manage to get the next tournament. The only way I see this go through is when Qatar and Saudi make peace and Qatar tell Masters it is okay you can go ahead. 

 

 

https://www.riyadhbureau.com/p/saudi-qatar-asian-games

 

Totally agree and making peace would include an apology for ignoring the BEOutQ situation.  The Qatari's stepped up bigtime with their accepted bid for EPL rights and obviously the EPL was in negotiations while the takeover was in progress.  The EPL will say it didn't want to sacrifice this deal to approve PIF.  It could further say that it consulted the Big 6 because as the EPL's most valuable properties, they deserved to have input with the proceedings.

 

I would say that Qatar stepping up with this offer is game, set, match. 

 

It doesn't mean that PIF can't get back in, it just means there would have to be conciliatory gestures towards Qatar before anything happens.

[Whitley mag]