Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Jacobs inferring that any resolution before the 'off season' unlikely unless the takeover can be agreed pending some sort of Middle Eastern agreement on the Bein situation. Fucking bored with this shit now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 That Ben Jacobs update basically means this NUFC Takeover is nowhere near! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Jacobs inferring that any resolution before the 'off season' unlikely unless the takeover can be agreed pending some sort of Middle Eastern agreement on the Bein situation. Fucking bored with this shit now. Or speed up the takeover and we’ll restore beIN back in Saudi Arabia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Not the news that we wanted but not bad news either. It was never going to be shouted about if Bein were allowed back in, but the fact that they are open to discussions means this could all happen under the radar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 He’s got such a punchable face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Jacobs inferring that any resolution before the 'off season' unlikely unless the takeover can be agreed pending some sort of Middle Eastern agreement on the Bein situation. Fucking bored with this shit now. Or speed up the takeover and we’ll restore beIN back in Saudi Arabia A very legitimate demand imo, and not unreasonable considering what's happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Not the news that we wanted but not bad news either. It was never going to be shouted about if Bein were allowed back in, but the fact that they are open to discussions means this could all happen under the radar. Aye but not unreasonable to have hoped for some actual fucking discussions by this point. Bein haven't even been engaged according to Jacobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Jacobs inferring that any resolution before the 'off season' unlikely unless the takeover can be agreed pending some sort of Middle Eastern agreement on the Bein situation. Fucking bored with this shit now. Or speed up the takeover and we’ll restore beIN back in Saudi Arabia That's what the bit in bold referred to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Looking like arbitration then. Win or bust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I can’t wait for this to roll on for months more. It’s just been so much fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I can’t wait for this to roll on for months more. It’s just been so much fun. Aye. Boring as fuck now. Just want resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. And a 'regulatory body' for want of a better term, who have had their core product nicked and one of their key partners 'wronged' in the process. Whichever way we chop it, and I really really really want it to happen, it was hardly unforeseeable that the PL wouldn't be readily compliant in approving a takeover nor would one of their key rights holders be an enabler for it. Hence, it's probably legal or bust, before there's any mutually beneficial deal with Bein. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. This is kind of what I meant, the closest thing in the O+D test is if someone has been convicted of a crime (or theft). Nobody from the consortium has. It absolutely causes an issue for the PL with the piracy but the key thing is its not under the rules of their own test. They can't change the rules just because Bein don't like what's happened. I guess this is where our legal team come in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Fair points ^ for me this has always been about piracy - no piracy issues and the deal goes through unless their is some minuscule of a legal loophole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. Well you would imagine they must have done otherwise why would there be so much confidence from the legal team employed by NUFC that we will win the case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. Well you would imagine they must have done otherwise why would there be so much confidence from the legal team employed by NUFC that we will win the case? I hope so but part of me wonders whether Ashley just wants to be enough of an irritation to force it through (tanks on their lawn etc etc). I'd also say any 'confidence' around legal cases I take with a pinch of salt given the cheerleaders around the buy side regime have been inaccurate at all turns to date. It just needs to play out, minus the cheerleading from people like the NCSL knobhead, imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Fair points ^ for me this has always been about piracy - no piracy issues and the deal goes through unless their is some minuscule of a legal loophole Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. This is kind of what I meant, the closest thing in the O+D test is if someone has been convicted of a crime (or theft). Nobody from the consortium has. It absolutely causes an issue for the PL with the piracy but the key thing is its not under the rules of their own test. They can't change the rules just because Bein don't like what's happened. I guess this is where our legal team come in. I think you're right. We'll have to either prove they've misapplied the test or have enough evidence of Bein influence/potential corruption that the PL fear this getting into the public domain. You'd imagine their legal counsel will be equally as robust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just to be clear when this takeovers announced I’m going to have a f***ing field day in here. You can stick you’re 48 hr ban, I’m predicting a lifetime ban for myself. A f***ing field day of celebrating whilst others are doing the same? Woo. Radical. Do you seriously think there's any member on here that does not want to be taken over? Just because we're not all fully fledged members of that Keith Daftcunt Brigade doesn't mean we want it any less. That daft c*** is doing a lot more than yourself. You just sit back and let it play out, we’ll ignore the fact he is in contact with vital players in this process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's quite amazing how much influence Bein have over a takeover of our club. I know it's a piracy issue but ffs, we have a buyer and a seller. If the PL have blocked the bid due to piracy then it’s perfectly reasonable to block it unless an agreement is reached between the Gulf states, otherwise BeIN will sue the fuck out of the PL imo And also we have to remember that the PL themselves have desperately tried to bring legal cases against KSA directly. Seperate from Bein (albeit probably at their behest). The PL, rightly, have a problem with the KSA regime. They're hardly going to be falling over themselves to let these 'thiefs' have a stake in their prime product. 1/20th of it. So 5% of their core product is owned by the very people that have been nicking it. It's not a stretch to see why it was never straight forward despite protestations from the buyers about their supreme confidence etc. From the perspective of someone who really wants this deal done, I can only hope the PL have made some grave legal error in the application of their own Owners Test. This is kind of what I meant, the closest thing in the O+D test is if someone has been convicted of a crime (or theft). Nobody from the consortium has. It absolutely causes an issue for the PL with the piracy but the key thing is its not under the rules of their own test. They can't change the rules just because Bein don't like what's happened. I guess this is where our legal team come in. I think you're right. We'll have to either prove they've misapplied the test or have enough evidence of Bein influence/potential corruption that the PL fear this getting into the public domain. You'd imagine their legal counsel will be equally as robust. And on those two points I think we can all agree in here that through our own eyes we've seen the PL play things away from their own rule book. That's simply not allowed and it's their own fault for not making the OD tests robust enough. Also I believe this has a lot more to it - Bein have already paid for the new contract which apparently includes the KSA region. They need to broadcast there. Get the takeover done and you can do it is quite a checkmate position for the Saudi's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just to be clear when this takeovers announced I’m going to have a f***ing field day in here. You can stick you’re 48 hr ban, I’m predicting a lifetime ban for myself. A f***ing field day of celebrating whilst others are doing the same? Woo. Radical. Do you seriously think there's any member on here that does not want to be taken over? Just because we're not all fully fledged members of that Keith Daftcunt Brigade doesn't mean we want it any less. That daft c*** is doing a lot more than yourself. You just sit back and let it play out, we’ll ignore the fact he is in contact with vital players in this process. Why do you continually argue with people who want the same thing as you? You need to take a break my man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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