Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Pilko]

Everything to do with this “takeover” is absolutely cringey right now. I hope that Keith Lemon chap can afford whatever he’s spunked on that legal nonsense because he’ll be getting nout from Mandy now her Barclays meal ticket has sailed.

 

We all made a lot of assumptions about what the Saudis plans were for the club, like they would throw money at the situation to succeed, we never considered that they might not do that which could have been equally as likely. Just a punt like they made with Uber and other investments that they dipped in and out of just as quick.

 

Let’s face it, aside from Mike Ashley looking for compensation from the PL we’ve had absolutely no proof that the consortium are negotiating with him again. Zero. Again all assumptions from jaded supporters who are akin to the pilgrims going to Lourdes each year hoping their cancer might be cured. It’s as grim as that.

 

The takeover as it is or was only exists now in the ramblings of a bunch of male Karen’s on Twitter. We should want nothing to do with it. Stop giving them the attention and the bullshit will stop.

 

Maybe one day we’ll wake up to a story that it’s all done but right now all we have is a club that’s in limbo, with (mostly) detestable people from top to bottom (the owner, boardroom, manager, coaches and playing staff)

 

It needs burning to the ground with a wicker man in the middle of the pitch for said detestables.

 

 

 

 

 

At the minute our club closer resembles the awful Nic Cage remake.

 

"No, not the Steves!"

 

[Darth Crooks]

finally a post worth the hassle

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

[Dr Jinx]

? that’s cheered me up

[TheHoob]

[Consortium of one]

I am so pleased that I never went on the "always look on the down side" or the "always seek to routinely criticise anyone who doesn't always look on the down side" training Courses !!

 

The way some people think, and post on here, is amazing.

 

This post is a flaming bag of shit. 

 

You don't have to ever have taken any negativity classes to question the potential sale of this club to PIF/PCP.

 

Anybody with any sense would question a deal that has:

 

a) Gone on for a year with no discernable progress.

 

2) Had the governing body nix the deal.

 

iii)  Had the principal partner publicly move away from the deal after that.

 

IV)  Had the prospective seller sue only for damages because the deal was nixed.

[midds]

Not sure if it's sheer blind faith or people choosing to believe something simply because they want it to be true. I've seen nothing tangible or concrete to suggest this is still a goer, hope I'm wrong as I've said before but until I see some concrete evidence it's happening then I'm out. I'd love to be wrong but don't get why there is so much discussion in the absence of actual facts. Just hot air, waffle, spurious opinions and utter shite tbh.

[Shearergol]

I’m weirdly interested in seeing Keith take the PL to court tbh. Assume we’ll see that once the takeover is resolved either way?

[gdm]

Not sure if it's sheer blind faith or people choosing to believe something simply because they want it to be true. I've seen nothing tangible or concrete to suggest this is still a goer, hope I'm wrong as I've said before but until I see some concrete evidence it's happening then I'm out. I'd love to be wrong but don't get why there is so much discussion in the absence of actual facts. Just hot air, waffle, spurious opinions and utter shite tbh.

 

I had clung on to a little hope that arbitration might see a pathway to it happening but all we’ve heard is January is a big month then we’ll hear news in February then it was March. Along with the creeping probability of relegation my hope has dwindled to nothing

[Fantail Breeze]

I’m weirdly interested in seeing Keith take the PL to court tbh. Assume we’ll see that once the takeover is resolved either way?

 

 

Keith can barely take himself to the toilet.

[Candi_Hills]

Not sure if it's sheer blind faith or people choosing to believe something simply because they want it to be true. I've seen nothing tangible or concrete to suggest this is still a goer, hope I'm wrong as I've said before but until I see some concrete evidence it's happening then I'm out. I'd love to be wrong but don't get why there is so much discussion in the absence of actual facts. Just hot air, waffle, spurious opinions and utter s**** tbh.

 

If you don't believe Amanda still wants to buy the club you'd have to believe that Caulkin is either a complete liar or has been lied to by mutiple conspiring parties and is naive enough to believe it.

 

The simplest answer is that Amanda does still want to buy the club but there are still a load of obstacles in the way. Jacobs' summary of the situation today makes complete sense in relation to everything that's unfolded so far.

 

 

[Fantail Breeze]

Not sure if it's sheer blind faith or people choosing to believe something simply because they want it to be true. I've seen nothing tangible or concrete to suggest this is still a goer, hope I'm wrong as I've said before but until I see some concrete evidence it's happening then I'm out. I'd love to be wrong but don't get why there is so much discussion in the absence of actual facts. Just hot air, waffle, spurious opinions and utter s**** tbh.

 

If you don't believe Amanda still wants to buy the club you'd have to believe that Caulkin is either a complete liar or has been lied to by mutiple conspiring parties and is naive enough to believe it.

 

The simplest answer is that Amanda does still want to buy the club but there are still a load of obstacles in the way. Jacobs' summary of the situation today makes complete sense in relation to everything that's unfolded so far.

 

Amanda might still want to buy the club, a bit like how I might want to have sex with joeyt[/member].

 

It doesn’t mean it will happen, or is close to happening.

 

We both have a lot of obstacles to overcome and some might not even be possible.

[et tu brute]

I’m weirdly interested in seeing Keith take the PL to court tbh. Assume we’ll see that once the takeover is resolved either way?

 

 

Keith can barely take himself to the toilet.

 

 

He has done himself no favours the last couple of months. I admire that he is prepared, and has put his money in to try and help developments; however, he comes accross so badly now. He should have just left it to actual updates (mind there has been no concrete ones for months now) instead of turning half the fanbase against him.

[Candi_Hills]

Not sure if it's sheer blind faith or people choosing to believe something simply because they want it to be true. I've seen nothing tangible or concrete to suggest this is still a goer, hope I'm wrong as I've said before but until I see some concrete evidence it's happening then I'm out. I'd love to be wrong but don't get why there is so much discussion in the absence of actual facts. Just hot air, waffle, spurious opinions and utter s**** tbh.

 

If you don't believe Amanda still wants to buy the club you'd have to believe that Caulkin is either a complete liar or has been lied to by mutiple conspiring parties and is naive enough to believe it.

 

The simplest answer is that Amanda does still want to buy the club but there are still a load of obstacles in the way. Jacobs' summary of the situation today makes complete sense in relation to everything that's unfolded so far.

 

Amanda might still want to buy the club, a bit like how I might want to have sex with joeyt[/member].

 

It doesn’t mean it will happen, or is close to happening.

 

We both have a lot of obstacles to overcome and some might not even be possible.

 

Lots of people are saying she doesn't. They think she's dossing about on a beach somewhere while Caulkin and Jacobs make s*** up for clicks. My only point is that I think she is still trying to buy the club. The rest of what you've said might be right.

 

 

 

[Thumbheed]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

[Fantail Breeze]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

The main party in the consortium literally did say this.

[gdm]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

She did a massive interview with caulkin saying it was off, in tears etc. She’s never officially said it’s back on.

 

I do believe they want to buy the club but I also believe it’s more of a hassle than they bargained for

[Thumbheed]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

The main party in the consortium literally did say this.

 

So it's been off since that point in your eyes? If so then Ashley's statement and subsequent actions dont add up, furthermore there's enough out there to suggest PIF are still keen, even Luke Edwards accepted PIF were still on board. But further to my original point, we know how AS operates in these exact situations because she's been through them before so it makes no sense for us to believe she'd just slink off into the night without a single word being spoken.

[Fantail Breeze]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

The main party in the consortium literally did say this.

 

So it's been off since that point in your eyes? If so then Ashley's statement and subsequent actions dont add up, furthermore there's enough out there to suggest PIF are still keen, even Luke Edwards accepted PIF were still on board. But further to my original point, we know how AS operates in these exact situations because she's been through them before so it makes no sense for us to believe she'd just slink off into the night without a single word being spoken.

 

Absolutely. It has been off since then.

 

Ashley’s statement and subsequent actions can be explained because he’s unhappy the deal is off. Why would he be fighting for a deal which is going ahead? He wouldn’t need to.

 

It may only be back on once multiple hurdles have been overcome - sadly none of them are even close.

[Thumbheed]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

She did a massive interview with caulkin saying it was off, in tears etc. She’s never officially said it’s back on.

 

I do believe they want to buy the club but I also believe it’s more of a hassle than they bargained for

 

Then the club released their statement and took subsequent action. We also got the official statement from the Reuben brithers confirming they "remain supportive" of the takeover.

 

Like I say, for me, it's on until one of the Reubens, AS or Ashley himself say it's off.

[Thumbheed]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

The main party in the consortium literally did say this.

 

So it's been off since that point in your eyes? If so then Ashley's statement and subsequent actions dont add up, furthermore there's enough out there to suggest PIF are still keen, even Luke Edwards accepted PIF were still on board. But further to my original point, we know how AS operates in these exact situations because she's been through them before so it makes no sense for us to believe she'd just slink off into the night without a single word being spoken.

 

Absolutely. It has been off since then.

 

Ashley’s statement and subsequent actions can be explained because he’s unhappy the deal is off. Why would he be fighting for a deal which is going ahead? He wouldn’t need to.

 

It may only be back on once multiple hurdles have been overcome - sadly none of them are even close.

 

Because he doesn't believe the test was carried out properly and feels it should have gone through? He even made direct reference to the fact PIF had provided information the EPL had requested. Those aren't the words of a man who believes this is dead.

[Yorkie]

I’m weirdly interested in seeing Keith take the PL to court tbh. Assume we’ll see that once the takeover is resolved either way?

 

 

Keith can barely take himself to the toilet.

 

[Hhtoon]

I still believe De Marco is working on more than compensation. However, I'm sure on a timeline a couple of people posted it said arbitration could have started by now. I get settling before is preferable, but if we were so certain we would win then I don't get why we aren't just forcing it through.

[Fantail Breeze]

If it was off then why wouldn't AS say so? I can't think of a single reason why she wouldn't, she's not exactly shy about engaging the media and has done exactly that on a couple of occasions now.

 

This is on until someone significant says its off. It's as simple as that.

 

The main party in the consortium literally did say this.

 

So it's been off since that point in your eyes? If so then Ashley's statement and subsequent actions dont add up, furthermore there's enough out there to suggest PIF are still keen, even Luke Edwards accepted PIF were still on board. But further to my original point, we know how AS operates in these exact situations because she's been through them before so it makes no sense for us to believe she'd just slink off into the night without a single word being spoken.

 

Absolutely. It has been off since then.

 

Ashley’s statement and subsequent actions can be explained because he’s unhappy the deal is off. Why would he be fighting for a deal which is going ahead? He wouldn’t need to.

 

It may only be back on once multiple hurdles have been overcome - sadly none of them are even close.

 

Because he doesn't believe the test was carried out properly and feels it should have gone through? He even made direct reference to the fact PIF had provided information the EPL had requested. Those aren't the words of a man who believes this is dead.

 

Well actually, they are the words from a man who believes this is dead:

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/club-statement-1

 

Newcastle United can confirm that the Premier League has rejected a takeover bid made by PCP Capital Partners, the Reuben Brothers and the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia (PIF) based on its Owners and Directors test.

 

This conclusion has been reached despite the club providing the Premier League with overwhelming evidence and legal opinions that PIF is independent and autonomous of the Saudi Arabian government.

 

The club and its owners do not accept that Premier League chief executive Richard Masters and the Premier League have acted appropriately in relation to this matter and will be considering all relevant options available to them.

 

Mike Ashley understands fans’ frustrations and would like to reassure them that he has been fully committed to ensuring this takeover process reached completion as he felt it was in the best interests of the club. Mike continues to be fully supportive to Steve Bruce, the players and all the staff and wishes them well for the upcoming season.

 

AS carried out an interview where she informed us the deal was off.

PIF released a statement withdrawing their bid.

MA released the above statement advising the takeover had collapsed.

 

What more do you want/need?

[Ketsbaia]

I've been speaking out against the lust for negativity around here, partly because I think this'll happen.

 

But admittedly there are two worries - the absolute silence over the past month (BeIn, De Marco etc) and Ashley still not being told to sack Bruce.

 

The realisation that this depends on being in the Premier League isn't good.