Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Guest reefatoon]

5 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

I’ve not seen anyone ‘hanging off his word’ from those tweets. He’s made it clear they are his opinions based on the statement, he’s not even claiming to have any inside knowledge.

he talks just as much clap trap. These Twitter attention whores are all the same. Anyway, couple of snippets coming out this afternoon that has me in quite a positive mood, so don’t fancy doing the back and forth dance if that’s ok fella  Keeping myself feeling upbeat about this.

[Joey Linton]

16 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

As a side point, recent developments also show all of the ITKs to be full of shit…

 

Arbitration didn’t start last week, there doesn’t seem to be anything deal breaking in NUFC’s case vs the PL otherwise there would be no need for all of this and did Staveley not phone Keith today? Or did he not see this statement because Kennedy didn’t?

 

People should stop giving these idiots airtime who are milking a shit situation and dragging people along.

I don't think anyone can argue with that now. 

[Scotty66]

I don't agree with "there doesn't seem to be anything deal breaking in the case" 

 

Nobody knows either way, and just because these statements have been released doesn't mean its because we have a weak case. Personally I believe we have the PL right where we want them (with strong evidence) and the club and buyers want everybody to see just how shitty the PL are and exactly what they've been up to, hence making it public. 

 

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Scotty66

[IMTTS]

24 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Could this not be to indirectly put pressure on the judge in the CAT case to not agree to the PL''s request to have the CAT case heard privately?

 

No. 

 

"why?"

 

Because the idea of a litigant pressuring judges through the press to decide in their favour is absolutely insane and wouldn't be put forward by a single solicitor in the country, let alone a QC. Genuinely mad stuff. 

[Scoot]

1 minute ago, IMTTS said:

 

No. 

 

"why?"

 

Because the idea of a litigant pressuring judges through the press to decide in their favour is absolutely insane and wouldn't be put forward by a single solicitor in the country, let alone a QC. Genuinely mad stuff. 

 

So if you're saying no, then it's probably yes.

 

Cheers Luke.

[Numbers]

This whole thing is a fucking bore, theres absoloutely no way this wouldn't be playing out on a massive media stage and attracting huge worldwide interest if it was Manchester United/Liverpool.

 

The PL are a bunch of cunts imo and this whole thing needs to be played out in public.

 

[Joey Linton]

21 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

No comment on the need for transparency either. 

 

He did

 

 

 

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Joey Linton

[Jackie Broon]

2 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

 

 

That make absolutely no fucking sense at all.

[LV]

13 minutes ago, IMTTS said:

 

No. 

 

"why?"

 

Because the idea of a litigant pressuring judges through the press to decide in their favour is absolutely insane and wouldn't be put forward by a single solicitor in the country, let alone a QC. Genuinely mad stuff. 

Here he is!

 

God we’ve missed you, you’re just what this thread needs right now 

[Thumbheed]

4 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

 

He did

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ahhh after he was prompted for comment but not part of his original thread. But fair enough. 

 

Not exactly the most committed commentary though seeing as though it's the salient part of the club and AS's statements. 

[B-more Mag]

Notwithstanding that the PL should probably be closely regulated as a quasi-monopoly, I can't imagine there's any basis for the government to intervene with respect to what appears to be an enforceable arbitration provision.

[nbthree3]

 

Sources close to the Amanda Staveley-led and Saudi Arabian-financed bid for Newcastle United say they have still not been given a date for the Premier League’s arbitration case, which is expected to be heard this month.

 

The reference to the Super League is layered. Those connected with the £300million bid for Newcastle believe that at least two Big Six clubs have forcibly opposed the takeover behind the scenes. The owners who object to the deal are concerned that the involvement of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) at St James’ Park will mean a cash injection into the club that will mirror Sheikh Mansour’s spending at Manchester City or Roman Abramovich’s at Chelsea.

 

Those connected to the proposed Newcastle takeover insist that the situation is different. They say that despite PIF’s backing – the Saudi fund is putting up 80 per cent of the money with PCP Capital Partners and the Reuben Brothers financing 10 per cent each – the club will be run within its means.

 

...

 

Nevertheless, Staveley remains frustrated by the Premier League’s stance and the length of time it is taking to conclude the matter. Richard Masters, the organisation’s chief executive, said in January that the dispute would be resolved in a “timely manner”. Six months on, the 48-year-old businesswoman is still waiting.

 

Even if Staveley gets the green light to take over the club, the prospective owners are concerned that there will be little time left in the transfer window to allow them to stamp their mark on Newcastle before the new season. The open letter to Crouch is an attempt to pile pressure on the Premier League.

[Joey Linton]

1 minute ago, Thumbheed said:

 

Ahhh after he was prompted for comment but not part of his original thread. But fair enough. 

 

Not exactly the most committed commentary though seeing as though it's the salient part of the club and AS's statements. 

Was just highlighting it for you as I thought you'd be interested 

 

Not like whoever it was earlier deliberately misrepresenting what he'd said, which helps nobody. 

[Scoot]

5 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

That make absolutely no fucking sense at all.

I think 90% of his tweets don't make sense. I used to have to re-read his tweets all the time and still have no idea what it was he was getting at. Normally sticking up for the Premier league.

[Bimpy474]

This puts pressure and the spotlight on the Premier League, the more they stay silent and avoid scrutiny the worse it looks for them, imo they will have to respond. Staying silent will bring the government into it, something they don't clearly want.

[Scoot]

The owners who object to the deal are concerned that the involvement of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) at St James’ Park will mean a cash injection into the club that will mirror Sheikh Mansour’s spending at Manchester City or Roman Abramovich’s at Chelsea.

 

So it's OK for them to spend what they like but nobody else can.

[nbthree3]

So the two in question were Liverpool and Spurs wasn't it, and that's just an alleged suspicion of course. Closed shop cartel, Boris described the ESL, and perhaps by extension the big 6, as one and the big 6 executives claiming we don't want a more democratic league, or more "Leicester Citys."

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html Leicester quote 

 

“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys" one. 

 

(These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

“Football history suggests fans like big teams winning,” the official continued, to the group of business people and media figures present. “A certain amount of unpredictability is good, but a more democratic league would be bad for business.”)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/20/european-super-league-amounts-to-a-cartel-says-boris-johnson Cartel quote 

 

Football was “one of the great glories of this country’s cultural heritage”, Johnson told the Downing Street press conference, adding: “How can it be right when you have a situation where you create a kind of cartel that stops clubs competing against each other?”

[Bimpy474]

1 hour ago, Scoot said:

The owners who object to the deal are concerned that the involvement of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) at St James’ Park will mean a cash injection into the club that will mirror Sheikh Mansour’s spending at Manchester City or Roman Abramovich’s at Chelsea.

 

So it's OK for them to spend what they like but nobody else can.

Yeah, that was the whole point of Project 'lets get all the money, dictate who buys rival clubs and never get relegated'......closely followed by European 'we're so arrogant, we're the 12 best clubs in the world, and lets get all the money in a closed competition, admitting teams only we like'

 

Six clubs, all utter utter cunts.

 

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Bimpy474

[Dr Jinx]

Will her letter fall on deaf ears? This all depends on how the government feel about it. They like Saudi money, like it a lot. If they have an excuse to get involved I think they might but the thing is that this is uncharted waters, there’s literally no precedent for what we’re facing.

 

The media mainly don’t seem to care. The bbc didn’t report the clubs statement at all iirc?

[LV]

Bbc don’t care about the north east really. They are very London and North West focused. 

[Armchair Pundit]

This is it, there really hasn't been much of a push on this in the media, considering how far reaching the outcome could be. The Prem is potentially going to be proven as a competition restricting cartel, makes you wonder how many in the media are on the gravy train in some way too.

[Stifler]

7 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

Will her letter fall on deaf ears? This all depends on how the government feel about it. They like Saudi money, like it a lot. If they have an excuse to get involved I think they might but the thing is that this is uncharted waters, there’s literally no precedent for what we’re facing.

 

The media mainly don’t seem to care. The bbc didn’t report the clubs statement at all iirc?

The government could have nipped this long ago.

The football authorities have taken the piss, and not just about us. The EFL situation where they let Bury go bust, whilst at the same time worked with Bolton to ensure they survived. The whole debate last year on if they should cancel seasons or not coming far too late to make any decision and force clubs into making the only viable alternative. The whole backing of the top 6 clubs plans to steal football.

 

The FA trying to sell Wembley in order to give grassroots football the money they already should have had. The inability to put in any funding or adequate training for new coaches or referee’s, alongside leavening the responsibility to train kids to each clubs academy, when every other country is pretty much doing it direct through their FA’s.

 

The Premier League have long since been lost to the big 6, and before that the top 4. There is reasonable logic behind the thinking that they were not in the dark about the ESL as they made out to be, and then the punishment against them is laughable. They were certainly in talks about project big picture before the ESL talks. Then there is the whole lack of funding to the EFL and grassroots where they have basically not even held any talks with the ESL, but said they would. Where have we heard that before.

 

The government should have fucked them right up the area straight away.

They should have either threatened to pull their elite sports status, which allows them to play during the pandemic, or told them that the Premier League is a matter of national interest and all games should be shown on terrestrial TV free of charge. Pull the rug from under the fuckers instead of keep asking them to do something.

These tickets aren’t going to play by the rules, they don’t even know what the rules are, you think they care if a clubs go bust, if fans suffer, if football is unbalanced, if a poor area of the country is denied investment because of their decisions? These fuckers care about what their bank balance says and how their mates at the top clubs are happy and filling their wallets.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by Stifler

[Wolfcastle]

"No more Leicester City's" when pretty much every genuine football fan in the world wants more "Leicester City's" is reason enough to do something.

[Wolfcastle]

9 minutes ago, LV said:

Bbc don’t care about the north east really. They are very London and North West focused. 

And its a chore to cede some mostly aesthics to the north-west, they'd be up in arms at another sect of turnip heads even further north getting in on the racquet.

[Wolfcastle]

11 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said:

This is it, there really hasn't been much of a push on this in the media, considering how far reaching the outcome could be. The Prem is potentially going to be proven as a competition restricting cartel, makes you wonder how many in the media are on the gravy train in some way too.

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? for if all prosper, none dare call it treason"