The Prophet Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Isn't the whole point that you can't really tell an entire culture what they can and can't be offended by, even if you think they're swivel eyed racists or from planet soft cunt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Well, this thread went to shit didn’t it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: We don’t dress in Victorian attire Rees Mogg does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Rees Mogg does. He is Minister of State for the 19th Century though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I understand that they probably aren't offended (might do with all the beer being thrown around mind but hey ho), to me it's like the rich Sage bloke taking over some French club and them all being pissed up and gurning "whey aye mans" at the cameras. It's OK in a very short measure of passion and emotion, after that it's just tedious and irritating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Anyone who feels offended should feel privileged with the opportunity to feel offended. Being offended is all the rage these days. I mean these days it's perfectly acceptable to be offended on behalf of another culture. Great stuff. Meanwhile, while the left indulges in this absurd wokeism or virtue signalling affair, the rest of the country collectively says "fuck that", at the polls and we end up with a malevolent conservative government who do real damage to people's lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, STM said: Anyone who feels offended should feel privileged with the opportunity to feel offended. Being offended is all the rage these days. I mean these days it's perfectly acceptable to be offended on behalf of another culture. Great stuff. Meanwhile, while the left indulges in this absurd wokeism or virtue signalling affair, the rest of the country collectively says "fuck that", at the polls and we end up with a malevolent conservative government who do real damage to people's lives. To be honest and this should maybe go in the general chat section, the right are regularly the most offended but see their being offended as the only legitimate one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, STM said: Probably been mentioned but I seem to remember everyone including the media having a chuckle when we had a French day including fans dressed in berets and onions. France must be the only country left that you are allowed to culturally appropriate. Eh Paddy’s Day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Personally I thought it was a cop out way of asking people to stop as it looks like sportwashing in action and it provokes negative reactions whether it's harmless or not. I suspect they want to let shit like this die down... ----------- SNP MP John Nicolson, who sits on the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee, said he felt for the widow of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi. He said during a hearing: "I'm trying to imagine what it must be like to be Jamal Khashoggi's widow, when her husband has been chopped up and murdered.... and she sees numpties dancing around in cod-Arabic dresses outside Newcastle United. That must be heart-rending. "It made me, as an outsider watching it, think there was nobody who could have taken over that club - no matter the level of evil of the person who took over - that would have resulted in anything other than celebration for large numbers of Newcastle supporters. "That's a kind of sickness at the heart of football, isn't it?" -------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 SNP is where I stopped reading.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) I practically chopped a journalist up myself when I celebrated Wilson's goal on Sunday Edited October 20, 2021 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Klaus said: I practically chopped a journalist up myself when I celebrated Wilson's goal on Saturday HOPEfully it was Puke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Calm down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The Arabic Keffiyeh has religious and tribal connotations but I think he’s be too gentlemanly to complain or even be offended. Personally I thought it was a bit of a laugh but it’s old already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, et tu brute said: HOPEfully it was Puke Think you misunderstood my sarcasm The idea that Newcastle fans being happy about the takeover, is somehow condoning human rights abuses is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I have to take a course each year to raise awareness on anti-competitive behaviour as part of my job (I'm far from an expert) and this ticks all the boxes. I'd be amazed if it gets extended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Some RTG level posts about “wokeism” and “the left” can’t that stay in politics and not in here? Just keep this for football decisions. They asked people not to dress up, it really is that simple. The club did. It wasn’t “wokeism” “cancel culture” or “the LEFT”. The club did it. Move on. Any adult man who dresses up is attention seeking and ridiculous anyway. This is good that they’ve issued a statement Exactly this ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, ManDoon said: Some RTG level posts about “wokeism” and “the left” can’t that stay in politics and not in here? Just keep this for football decisions. They asked people not to dress up, it really is that simple. The club did. It wasn’t “wokeism” “cancel culture” or “the LEFT”. The club did it. Move on. Any adult man who dresses up is attention seeking and ridiculous anyway. This is good that they’ve issued a statement Exactly. No idea why the wokeism stuff is being discussed. The club, who is owned by Saudi Arabians have asked people not to do it. It's not complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Klaus said: Think you misunderstood my sarcasm The idea that Newcastle fans being happy about the takeover, is somehow condoning human rights abuses is disgusting. No I knew what you meant was just my sarcasm as Puke had been ringing his town crier bell yesterday. Totally agree with your sentiments also. Edited October 21, 2021 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: We don’t dress in Victorian attire and totally different. That’s a pathetic argument. Love it when people with absolutely no knowledge of a culture try and tell that culture what they should and shouldn’t be offended by. They can be offended all they like, it would just be completely irrational. If you want to be an incessant busy body telling people what they can and cannot do on behalf of others then crack on, I'm sure you hit the mark sometimes. I'm just saying in this case there's clearlly no malice to the dress up, and it's highly likely that the vast majority of Saudis are mature enough to not care about it. You seem to be the expert on Arabic culture though so by all means educate me on why I should be dismayed at this. Edited October 21, 2021 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Well this thread used to be fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: They can be offended all they like, it would just be completely irrational. If you want to be an incessant busy body telling people what they can and cannot do on behalf of others then crack on, I'm sure you hit the mark sometimes. I'm just saying in this case there's clearlly no malice to the dress up, and it's highly likely that the vast majority of Saudis are mature enough to not care about it. You seem to be the expert on Arabic culture though so by all means educate me on why I should be dismayed at this. It doesn't matter if there's malice or not, the club have requested that we don't do it. Again, why is this so difficult to understand and comply with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: It doesn't matter if there's malice or not, the club have requested that we don't do it. Again, why is this so difficult to understand and comply with? I don't know what the clubs statement has to do with this part of the conversation tbh? People can chose whether they want to comply with what the club have said or not but that's completely seperate to the cultural appropriation conversation. People are barking onabout their emotionally stinted ex lasses wanting 'to slap people' for dressing up as Mexicans 'n that man, it's weird. The vast majority of well adjusted people across the globe aren't this strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) And I'm half taking the piss with a lot of this but I do believe it's good advice that before people jump up on their soapbox, that they take a second to think whether or not their view of other people and cultures (and how they think) has been in any way warped by other factors - such as film and media. Like clearlly something has caused people to believe that Saudi's need protecting from our heinious steriotyping and dress up. Edited October 21, 2021 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Having lived for a bit of time in the Middle East it was properly cringe to see brits putting on the kandora as a dress up thing, I think everyone assumes naivete but it did come across as taking the piss out of a cultural symbol. I can see why they wanting it knocking the head, it’s unacceptable to dress up as most cultures now, most people don’t mean offence but it perpetuates stereotypes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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