Abacus Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 The trouble with Luke Baldwards is that he's anything but fair and balanced with that summary.  He's declared there's a slim chance of success, but he has nothing to base that on.  Why is he waffling on about a 'burden of proof' in an arbitration case? He's already decided that the PL are right, if that's the case.  Also, the aim of the CAT case is just to 'embarrass and expose' the PL?  If they're squeaky clean, what could there be to expose? And why should they be embarrassed?  As usual, just a joke of a writer, I won't say journalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, loki679 said: Proper rectangle. Straight onto the ignore list with manorpark and that stan bellend.  Good news / sanity prevails.  Hope you enjoy our club when you wake up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 It won’t matter a fuck before this is all done and dusted we’ll be practically down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 18 hours ago, gdm said: It won’t matter a fuck before this is all done and dusted we’ll be practically down Will the PL be shitting themselves if the CAT case gets the go-ahead and we are looking certs for relegation?  I imagine if Ashley wins, the damages claim would be huge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Be quite an interesting legal argument if they’d claim that Ashley is justified in neglecting the club and running it into the ground just because the takeover was blocked. And therefore compensation should reflect the cost of relegation.  He could easily have kept us in the Premier League with a small amount of investment. He got us relegated twice before the takeover was even a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 If the takeover goes through I imagine the consortium would have a manager lined up to replace slug heed, that manager wouldn't come now incase the takeover doesn't happen, they will also not want to sack Bruce then hire someone that would need paying off when new owners come in. Â The only option keep Bruce until its to late, I'm my opinion that's now but Ashley will keep him until after Christmas at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, 1964 said: Will the PL be shitting themselves if the CAT case gets the go-ahead and we are looking certs for relegation?  I imagine if Ashley wins, the damages claim would be huge I said this way back and got shot down as it’s not the PL fault Ashley stuck with Bruce which I can see that point of view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 How are the PL to blame for the relegation though?  Ashley doesn’t even need to invest, he could l just replace the manager and the relegation wouldn’t happen.  If it was an investment issue, I’d understand it, but it isn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Any other owner would have a claim. This one has relegated us twice already largely down to chronic persistent lack of investment and employing idiots way out of their leagues. Hasn't get a leg to stand on. Â Bruce can both relegate the club and cost him millions and a sale AND negate any claim for damages. Despite that we'll keep the useless c**t on by all means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 But isn’t this a match made in heaven after almost a decade and a half of mismanagment and neglect? He almost hit the jackpot with PIF (totally undeserved), then it crashed and burned, now he’s desperate for compensation.  Ashley is not going to turn this around in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, maze said: He almost hit the jackpot with PIFÂ then it crashed and burned. Â Â Except that, as you know, it hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said: How are the PL to blame for the relegation though?  Ashley doesn’t even need to invest, he could l just replace the manager and the relegation wouldn’t happen.  If it was an investment issue, I’d understand it, but it isn’t. In reality not to blame but would be interesting to see how they'd go about trying to prove Ashley was willfully negligent and therefore responsible for relegation whilst simultaneously defending the legitimacy of their own OADT which is there to supposedly protect clubs. Edited October 3, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, manorpark said:  Except that, as you know, it hasn't. It clearly has otherwise we'd be rid of Ashley  Regardless of whether PIF still want the club the reality is we are still owned by Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: It clearly has otherwise we'd be rid of Ashley  Regardless of whether PIF still want the club the reality is we are still owned by Ashley  We are still owned by Ashley and it is awful, as we all know.  It will not be for much longer though, it definitely will not be for much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Ben said: If the takeover goes through I imagine the consortium would have a manager lined up to replace slug heed, that manager wouldn't come now incase the takeover doesn't happen, they will also not want to sack Bruce then hire someone that would need paying off when new owners come in. Â The only option keep Bruce until its to late, I'm my opinion that's now but Ashley will keep him until after Christmas at least. Could just sack Bruce and we'd get a lift. It would probably be a bigger lift than any new manager could create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfcastle said: Any other owner would have a claim. This one has relegated us twice already largely down to chronic persistent lack of investment and employing idiots way out of their leagues. Hasn't get a leg to stand on. Â Bruce can both relegate the club and cost him millions and a sale AND negate any claim for damages. Despite that we'll keep the useless c**t on by all means. But Ashley can point to the expert opinions that state, quite clearly, that Bruce isn't out of his depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, manorpark said: Â We are still owned by Ashley and it is awful, as we all know. Â It will not be for much longer though, it definitely will not be for much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, manorpark said:  We are still owned by Ashley and it is awful, as we all know.  It will not be for much longer though, it definitely will not be for much longer. I admire your optimism and I wish I felt the same as it must feel nice  However it doesn't match with reality, which is that we have Ashley as owner and that will remain the case for a long time yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I admire your optimism and I wish I felt the same as it must feel nice  However it doesn't match with reality, which is that we have Ashley as owner and that will remain the case for a long time yet In fairness there is no reality in Ashley owning the club for a long time yet either. That’s just personal opinion too. Nobody knows what is happening or what is around the corner. The reality is nobody has a clue if we will be taken over or not or how long Ashley will be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: How are the PL to blame for the relegation though?  Ashley doesn’t even need to invest, he could l just replace the manager and the relegation wouldn’t happen.  If it was an investment issue, I’d understand it, but it isn’t. Guess you could say that the PL have seen how Ashley runs the club over a 14 year period. We average a relegation almost every 5 years under him and this is year 5 since our last promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, reefatoon said: In fairness there is no reality in Ashley owning the club for a long time yet either. That’s just personal opinion too. Nobody knows what is happening or what is around the corner. The reality is nobody has a clue if we will be taken over or not or how long Ashley will be here. That's fair, I should have worded it more clearly  Him being the owner is the reality and imo he'll remain owner for a long time yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I'd love to know how Ashley believes he's gonna get ÂŁ300 million for the club, when we look doomed for the Championship! More like we'll go down and be stuck with him for a while yet. Rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe_F Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Corrupt cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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