PIF and RB Sports & Media

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, Hudson said:

Is there any difference between the two. 

Opposite cheeks on the same arse.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by PauloGeordio

[Hudson]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

 

As a socialist who is worse Torys or Labour ?

Ohh and Humanist.

[Famous Nick]

1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Three weeks today until the CL draw. 
 

Wonder who our representative is going to be. 

good point, hard to say. usually some director and DoF for other clubs, almost always 2-3 persons.

 

dug  up from the draw of CL group 23-24, our delegate that time:

Eales, Ashworth, who is the third guy (on the left)?

asked chatgp, bloody hell first it said Eales on the left and Silverstone in middle, then told him its deffo Eales in the middle who is on left? he said Silverstone, I said thats not him, then he said that Steve Nickson, then told him he is way older who is on the left ffs, AI says good catch, thats actually Jason Tindall with the beard, I said impossible who the hell is that and this came up from chatgpt:

"I am confident that the man on the left in this photo is actually Shola Ameobi, but the man shown here is white, with a trimmed beard, so that also rules Shola out."  WTF 

 

[JT24]

Just now, Famous Nick said:

good point, hard to say. usually some director and DoF for other clubs, almost always 2-3 persons.

 

dug  up from the draw of CL group 23-24, our delegate that time:

Eales, Ashworth, who is the third guy (on the left)?

asked chatgp, bloody hell first it said Eales on the left and Silverstone in middle, then told him its deffo Eales in the middle who is on left? he said Silverstone, I said thats not him, then he said that Steve Nickson, then told him he is way older who is on the left ffs, AI says good catch, thats actually Jason Tindall with the beard, I said impossible who the hell is that and this came up from chatgpt:

"I am confident that the man on the left in this photo is actually Shola Ameobi, but the man shown here is white, with a trimmed beard, so that also rules Shola out."  WTF 

 

Lee Marshall, Director of Media and Comms

[BottledDog]

Hey, Lee Marshall, how about some Comms over here!

[buzz]

2 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Three weeks today until the CL draw. 
 

Wonder who our representative is going to be. 

 

Probably Jack Ross and Steve Harper 

 

[Lotus]

1 hour ago, et tu brute said:

When I want your opinion I'll ask for it

[duo]

PIF have lost interest - convinced of it.

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/opinion/newcastle-united-owners-grander-saudi-plans-revealed-as-fans-ponder-reality-of-tyneside-project

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by duo

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

PIF have lost interest - convinced of it.

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/opinion/newcastle-united-owners-grander-saudi-plans-revealed-as-fans-ponder-reality-of-tyneside-project

Fans are negative because we have had a difficult summer and are on a period of transition within the board room, that results in a negative article being written, which results in fans being negative?

[GideonShandy]

2 hours ago, Leemond said:

Is this the first time we could be hearing "PIF out"?

 

Feel they have totally lost interest 

Boycuott, tbh.  We demand a club that tries.

[Izakaya]

20 minutes ago, duo said:

PIF have lost interest - convinced of it.

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/opinion/newcastle-united-owners-grander-saudi-plans-revealed-as-fans-ponder-reality-of-tyneside-project

 

 

 

 

Good, more and more articles on their utter cunting of the past year please. 

[The College Dropout]

This summer has been 15 months in the making. It’s not just recent missteps.  
 

 

Does losing interest mean the same thing as not being top priority?

 

 

Maybe it’s cope but I think it’s more of a competence issue than strictly an interest issue. Again, maybe it’s the same. PIF move too slowly and not aggressive enough around the rules.  To succeed in European football you to be fast and aggressive and bend the rules. Everyone else does and if you don’t you’ll be left behind.  
 

Could just be cope and they don’t care. Which is why we don’t have bums in important seats. When every fan knew this summer was critical. 

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This summer has been 15 months in the making. It’s not just recent missteps.  
 

 

Does losing interest mean the same thing as not being top priority?

 

 

Maybe it’s cope but I think it’s more of a competence issue than strictly an interest issue. Again, maybe it’s the same. PIF move too slowly and not aggressive enough around the rules.  To succeed in European football you to be fast and aggressive and bend the rules. Everyone else does and if you don’t you’ll be left behind.  
 

Could just be cope and they don’t care. Which is why we don’t have bums in important seats. When every fan knew this summer was critical. 

I've been waiting to judge until the stadium questioned is answered but given that's delayed ....

 

I think we've just been sold a lie tbh, I think they have an idea that buying and selling footballers can make for a good investment and that's what we end up as. This offer for Isak is the only offer we've had for a decent player since they owned us and look how it's been handled, nobody has confidence in them handling it well

 

Sponsorships have been anemic and poorly handled, why sign such long deals if you want to maximise revenue? We've gone out of our way not to challenge the status quo and overachieved due to the gaffa. 

 

Meanwhile the important stuff which is the owners domain has had a wipe and a new lick of paint and that's about it. 

[B-more Mag]

Our board: 

 

Yasir O. Al-Rumayyan, PIF governor

 

Abdulmajid Ahmed Al Hagbani, PIF head of Middle East and North Africa securities investments (https://bsf.sa/english/the-bank/boardofdirectors/abdulmajid-ahmed-al-hagbani, https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Asmaa Mohammed Rezeeq, head of PIF global private equity and alternative investments division (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Roger Thornton, real estate guy at one of Jamie Reuben’s companies (https://www.costar.com/article/1349139039/newcastle-united-adds-north-east-property-stalwart-to-board)

 

Jamie Reuben, Reuben Brothers

 

Jacobo Francisco Solis Patino, PIF head of Europe direct investments (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00031014/officers
 

Doesn’t strike one as a football brain trust. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, B-more Mag said:

Our board: 

 

Yasir O. Al-Rumayyan, PIF governor

 

Abdulmajid Ahmed Al Hagbani, PIF head of Middle East and North Africa securities investments (https://bsf.sa/english/the-bank/boardofdirectors/abdulmajid-ahmed-al-hagbani, https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Asmaa Mohammed Rezeeq, head of PIF global private equity and alternative investments division (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Roger Thornton, real estate guy at one of Jamie Reuben’s companies (https://www.costar.com/article/1349139039/newcastle-united-adds-north-east-property-stalwart-to-board)

 

Jamie Reuben, Reuben Brothers

 

Jacobo Francisco Solis Patino, PIF head of Europe direct investments (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00031014/officers
 

Doesn’t strike one as a football brain trust. 

It absolutely isn't but then again they don't need to be. They just need to invest and hire the right people to do the day to day operations something they've obviously failed at and been slow to rectify. 

 

I think as fans we need to understand the current trajectory which is at best glass ceiling to sometimes challenging for CL so we can process the information better. That whole nobody 1 talk is just empty nonsense. 

[B-more Mag]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

It absolutely isn't but then again they don't need to be. They just need to invest and hire the right people to do the day to day operations something they've obviously failed at and been slow to rectify. 

 

I think as fans we need to understand the current trajectory which is at best glass ceiling to sometimes challenging for CL so we can process the information better. That whole nobody 1 talk is just empty nonsense. 

Right—you don’t need them to be experts, and you don’t want them micro-managing day-to-day stuff. But you do need them to know enough to know it’s not like some kinds of businesses where you can let a few key positions go unfilled while Korn Ferry or some such does an exhaustive search for all the ideal candidates. Meanwhile you blow an entire transfer window at a critical time. 

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It absolutely isn't but then again they don't need to be. They just need to invest and hire the right people to do the day to day operations something they've obviously failed at and been slow to rectify. 

 

I think as fans we need to understand the current trajectory which is at best glass ceiling to sometimes challenging for CL so we can process the information better. That whole nobody 1 talk is just empty nonsense. 

To add on, my assertion is that the glass ceiling is best case current trajectory assuming the owners wish to continue to spend up to the psr limit. Obviously if they aren't willing then that changes everything. 

 

On reflection the club appears to be very fragile and everything is a bit of a mirage, this awful summer has really highlighted how far behind we are in all aspects (manager aside). 

 

For me the most concerning thing is these people do not have a plan, they have a stated goal but no plan to achieve said goal. 

 

Eddie has rightfully impressed them and been afforded a lot of say as well, wouldn't be at all shocked if he was the person who had the best line to the chairman at this stage. 

 

Ps i don't expect ceo or dfo to make much of a difference as @The College Dropout keeps pointing out we need the buy in from the people who can get things done and to be frank whoever we appoint as CEO is a glorified administrator with no autonomy to do anything. 

 

Wrt to DFO, the athletic have reported that Eddie has had a hand in picking him I'm sure this will make a lot of folk happy so I'll leave it at that. 

[r0cafella]

2 hours ago, B-more Mag said:

Right—you don’t need them to be experts, and you don’t want them micro-managing day-to-day stuff. But you do need them to know enough to know it’s not like some kinds of businesses where you can let a few key positions go unfilled while Korn Ferry or some such does an exhaustive search for all the ideal candidates. Meanwhile you blow an entire transfer window at a critical time. 

Absolutely, this isn't a slow moving industry you can't wait around for a year to replace the head guy despite him being a glorified administrator, ultimately the head rots from the top and the lack of direction is apparent. 

 

I know what I post comes across as negative but we leave a lot to be desired and have structural issues, and I'm judging the club based upon what they've stated themselves for the sake of consistency. 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2025 by r0cafella
Must take time to proof read :lol:

[wong989]

Youd wonder why the push to oust Staveley, especially given nobody was willing to take on even part of her role. 

[Famous Nick]

wonder if it would help if Shearer would put some pressure on PIF in the media. something to hurt their pride a bit and get a reaction from them. or a bit passive aggressive like "I know the owners working extremely hard to help making Newcastle Champions as promised and promises are extremely important in Saudi Arabia" and then Yasir reading it thinking oh actually we arent, but he is right, we should be

[r0cafella]

3 hours ago, Famous Nick said:

wonder if it would help if Shearer would put some pressure on PIF in the media. something to hurt their pride a bit and get a reaction from them. or a bit passive aggressive like "I know the owners working extremely hard to help making Newcastle Champions as promised and promises are extremely important in Saudi Arabia" and then Yasir reading it thinking oh actually we arent, but he is right, we should be

I doubt PIf are reading the British press big Al can't do anything man. 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2025 by r0cafella

[Miggys First Goal]

I don’t think they’ve lost interest, but I do definitely think we’re no longer a major priority for them. But when you put it like that, though, lost interest/no longer a priority basically becomes interchangeable.

 

For all of YAR’s bluster about “being number 1”, I think it’s possible that, pre-takeover, they might have had the idea of that being achievable without actually knowing the intricate details of PSR and not being able to spend whatever you want. It’s probably dawned of them that, yes, this is going to be more of a slog than we first realised, and do we want to continue under the illusion of “being number 1”, or, are we happy with the occasional cup run (cup win) and using that as an entry to European football, or maybe we’re just happy challenging for lower European competitions like the Conference League or Europa League. 
 

We are never winning the league under the current system, that’s for certain. That is a closed shop now to a select few. We’ve hit our glass ceiling and it’s reinforced, triple glazed, bomb proof, and nobody is breaking through it. Maybe we just have to accept that this is it. But PIF will never say it out loud, so we’ll be here every transfer window wondering what’s going on. 

[Ben]

6 hours ago, B-more Mag said:

Our board: 

 

Yasir O. Al-Rumayyan, PIF governor

 

Abdulmajid Ahmed Al Hagbani, PIF head of Middle East and North Africa securities investments (https://bsf.sa/english/the-bank/boardofdirectors/abdulmajid-ahmed-al-hagbani, https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Asmaa Mohammed Rezeeq, head of PIF global private equity and alternative investments division (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

Roger Thornton, real estate guy at one of Jamie Reuben’s companies (https://www.costar.com/article/1349139039/newcastle-united-adds-north-east-property-stalwart-to-board)

 

Jamie Reuben, Reuben Brothers

 

Jacobo Francisco Solis Patino, PIF head of Europe direct investments (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5655094/2024/07/26/newcastle-structure-owners-staff-coaches/)

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00031014/officers
 

Doesn’t strike one as a football brain trust. 

 

Powerful as fuck though with a lot of capital at their disposal.

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

6 hours ago, wong989 said:

Youd wonder why the push to oust Staveley, especially given nobody was willing to take on even part of her role. 

 

Can we stop the poor Mandy was forced out

 

She is an intemittery who brought PIF to the table (which is great for us as got rid of Ashley) but shes a pretty reckless businesswoman who was is responsible for our PSR issues in the last year or two.

 

- She had an ongoing legal dispute with a greek shipping bloke which she lost.

 

- She then put one of her companies Apollo Belvedere into liquidation after losing the case to the greek shipping bloke https://www.ft.com/content/5f2b79cc-6ca0-4f2d-9ab8-ebb456972f01

 

- She then would have failed the Premier Leagues owners and directors test under F1.6 if she ends uo being subject to a disqualification order under the Company Directors Disqualification Act

 

- She did't have enough capital to keep going anyway.

[The Prophet]

I don't think we miss Stavely per se, but we do miss a conduit between PIF and the club. It's absolutely essential the new CEO is able to open the lines of communication.