Kasper Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wullie said: Of course it does. If they're using the good name of Newcastle United to try and improve their international reputation, that's not the same as investing in a company to make a few quid. Ok, last post about this here but I really want to know....do you guys seriously think that what Wullie above says about their objective is not a fact but an opinion? I honestly thought everyone was on the same page about this but just disagreed how bad it is and whether it should be allowed. Edited October 12, 2021 by Kasper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, HTT II said: Obviously they have many and different goals and what they want in return for investing Saudi money into businesses the world over, but if there is to be an outcry about human rights atrocities and how bad Saudi money is for NUFC, there needs to be an overall outcry full stop. I’m not having some sports journalist declare NUFC as the moral base in which to be judged on over Saudi atrocities just because their money is being invested into something we have zero choice or a say in. where were they while SA were carrying out evil acts? Where were they when Ashley’s employment practices were fucking over his workforce with their moral crusade? They can get to fuck! Uber can say no to Saudi investment, the U.K. can stop dealing with them and David Squires and co might want to look at where some of their salaries can be traced back to. We can say no and stop supporting the club, but why should we, why should we be the ones who are held accountable for any of this shit which again, has fuck all to do with us. And yes it’s good to have a discussion, but we can’t say no to what we are, which is supporters of a football club we formed and our own money, not Saudi money, has kept it going for over 120 years. It’s our club, the PL and our government and the game has allowed Saudi money to buy a stake in the business of our club, the game, the sport. The world has allowed SA to get away with and continue to commit human atrocities, not some Geordies from Newcastle. Judge them, ask them questions, take the moral high ground to them journos, fellow fans, and whoever else has had and will no doubt have their say, not some Geordies just supporting their club. Just look at the scenes when it was announced and how it’s being turned into Geordies are happy with boood money from Saudi, that was a celebration of Ashley finally selling up and fuck all to do with SA, AS or JB and their money. Reminds me of that total bellend Miguel Delaney spouting shite about us yet taking his wage from Saudi. Wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Can’t believe the negative lot have infiltrated the positive thread again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Kasper said: Ok, last post about this here but I really want to know....do you guys seriously think that what Wullie above says about their objective is not a fact but an opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 From the recipient's side, it doesn't matter a whole lot. Blood money is blood money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kasper said: Ok, last post about this here but I really want to know....do you guys seriously think that what Wullie above says about their objective is not a fact but an opinion? I honestly thought everyone was on the same page about this but just disagreed how bad it is and whether it should be allowed. Why can't both points be valid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, STM said: Oh great, I've found the virtue signalling thread. Performative handwringing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kasper said: No that's not the point. I'm seriously amazed that so many people seem to be confused about what the issue is. Okay, so what's the issue and exactly what about it changes where the money comes from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, HTT II said: Obviously they have many and different goals and what they want in return for investing Saudi money into businesses the world over, but if there is to be an outcry about human rights atrocities and how bad Saudi money is for NUFC, there needs to be an overall outcry full stop. I’m not having some sports journalist declare NUFC as the moral base in which to be judged on over Saudi atrocities just because their money is being invested into something we have zero choice or a say in. Where were they while SA were carrying out evil acts? Where were they when Ashley’s employment practices were fucking over his workforce with their moral crusade? They can get to fuck! Uber can say no to Saudi investment, the U.K. can stop dealing with them and David Squires and co might want to look at where some of their salaries can be traced back to. We can say no and stop supporting the club, but why should we, why should we be the ones who are held accountable for any of this shit which again, has fuck all to do with us. And yes it’s good to have a discussion, but we can’t say no to what we are, which is supporters of a football club we formed and our own money, not Saudi money, has kept it going for over 120 years. It’s our club, the PL and our government and the game has allowed Saudi money to buy a stake in the business of our club, the game, the sport. The world has allowed SA to get away with and continue to commit human atrocities, not some Geordies from Newcastle. Judge them, ask them questions, take the moral high ground to them journos, fellow fans, and whoever else has had and will no doubt have their say, not some Geordies just supporting their club. Just look at the scenes when it was announced and how it’s being turned into Geordies are happy with boood money from Saudi, that was a celebration of Ashley finally selling up and fuck all to do with SA, AS or JB and their money. Well said. Sportswashing or investing Uber or Disney, you could argue the degrees, but at the end of the day, it still means we are already operating in the same circles as Saudi Arabia. That the PL weren't even bothered about the moral aspects tells you everything we need to know about how this shitty football business works in the modern era. By all means if anyone wants to feel bad about NUFC being sponsored by PIF, feel free to do so, but if you were really bothered you'd probably just walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMack Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I will rephrase - which f*cking thread do I go in to not read all this sh*t? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Even though were disagreeing, anyone notice the lack of namecalling since the takeover went though? I almost miss it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, Lazarus said: Even though were disagreeing, anyone notice the lack of namecalling since the takeover went though? I almost miss it Aye, same here fuck face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, HTT II said: Aye, same here fuck face. Cheers arsewipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Bellends, the lot of you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 The forum has been great since the takeover was officially announced mind and one of the best things has been seeing old (cunts) former members return. We will get a lot of knackers joining in the coming weeks, months and years but I’m hoping for some good new fresh blood to emerge and join this amazing community of ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, HTT II said: but I’m hoping for some good new fresh blood to emerge and join this amazing community of ours. Real question is, are new members being allowed admission into the clique? Because if so take this as my note of interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, NE27 said: Real question is, are new members being allowed admission into the clique? Because if so take this as my note of interest Its easier to join the Freemasons ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, InspectorCoarse said: Its easier to join the Freemasons ... Can't even get into the Dennis and gnasher fan club me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NE27 said: Real question is, are new members being allowed admission into the clique? Because if so take this as my note of interest There is no clique, just Chili Pad meetings and a @Rocker takeover WhatsApp group, oh and some secret admin forum for the internet virgins. Edited October 12, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Debate the politics of the deal in the Off Topic forum. We all have our feelings. Some want to express them, some of us don't want to read them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: Debate the politics of the deal in the Off Topic forum. We all have our feelings. Some want to express them, some of us don't want to read them. There is no "off topic" forum. It's a chat section full of threads with various actual topics to discuss inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, Kaizero said: There is no "off topic" forum. It's a chat section full of threads with various actual topics to discuss inside. Semantics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Not sure if he's a regular on it, but if not is Darren Ambrose really the best the person former player talkShite could get in to discuss us? Caught a bit of him saying we have top training facilities. iirc he spent most of his time here injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TBG said: Not sure if he's a regular on it, but if not is Darren Ambrose really the best the person former player talkShite could get in to discuss us? Caught a bit of him saying we have top training facilities. iirc he spent most of his time here injured. And it was almost 2 decades ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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