TRon Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, elbee909 said: Arguably it it weren't for Staveley, we'd still have Ashley. If you still want to hit her with the PSR stick (which would have required selling someone, at some point, no matter what) then please fuck off. Not how I would put it, but the PSR mismanagement shouldn't overule the success of our signings either. Bruno and Isak would rake in big profit if we sold them now. Howe has turned out to be a great appointment, and even if I'm not a fan of having a manager having too much say over our signings, he's got an eye for a player. Nathan Aki and Solanke haven't turned out too bad even if you disregard our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I'm not sure why they can't be criticized. They clearly messed up somewhere between July of 2023 and June of 2024 and I think they'd admit to that. All things considered they also maneuvered out of it with a not disastrous outcome. And none of that tarnishes their legacy or place in the modern history of the club. Sounds like there's barely anything to criticise there then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 If they underspent and we finished lower I'm sure people would have been totally cool about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 They overspent and overindulged Howe. BUT if Tonali doesn’t get suspended or Botman doesn’t do his ACL - just one more rub of the green we probably qualify for Europe - with good luck we get into Europa League. Then it’s a gamble that paid off. And they did all of that before they knew PL would be handing out points deductions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: I'm not sure why they can't be criticized. They clearly messed up somewhere between July of 2023 and June of 2024 and I think they'd admit to that. All things considered they also maneuvered out of it with a not disastrous outcome. And none of that tarnishes their legacy or place in the modern history of the club. In which case not much point still going on about it, especially when somehow they try to pin it on Staveley specfically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 PIF club al-Hilal bid £70m for Nunez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 22 minutes ago, elbee909 said: In which case not much point still going on about it, especially when somehow they try to pin it on Staveley specfically. I’ve always said everyone above Eddie shares the blame. Specifically Eales, Ashworth, and Staveley. I don’t know why people get so defensive about her. Negative things are said about Keegan, Sir Bobby, Shearer, etc. It doesn’t diminish their importance to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: PIF club al-Hilal bid £70m for Nunez Not a chance its 70 million if Liverpool have supposedly rejected it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I think it's something to do with people seemingly trying to pin it on her specifically, and again personally I come back to the thing that she pushed through getting rid of Ashley, which is arguably one of the most important things to happen in the last twenty years of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Ultimately, the club felt stronger and safer as a project with her and Mehrdad around. Some people make it sound like we're well rid of them. PSR was a problem, but it was a problem solved and they are excellent problem solvers. It's not as though PSR was ever going to not be a big problem for us. They tried - and largely succeeded - in growing us out of the Ashley hole we were in, getting players in who give us a serious chance of earning money in the CL or selling them on for extremely substantial profits that can fund the club for years to come. Don't buy the players and you get no sales, no Europe, and no profile worthy of sponsorship. The only real alternative was to go the luxury Brighton route, but that would've made the last 3 years, and probably the next several, a very different experience. Buy a horde of Ashbys and Mintehs, forget buying Isak from Sociedad, and if we do splash out on a Bruno or Botman, have them understand very clearly that we are a temporary stepping stone towards their real future. All things considered I'm very happy we gambled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, The College Dropout said: PIF club al-Hilal bid £70m for Nunez That certainly isn't fair market value if true. He's worth half of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, duo said: That certainly isn't fair market value if true. He's worth half of that. In an open market transaction the fair market value is decided by the selling price. This is how markets work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, duo said: That certainly isn't fair market value if true. He's worth half of that. £10 million max with his goal scoring record compared to someone like Chris Wood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 It feels pointless getting annoyed at decisions that gave us some of the most enjoyable seasons in years when regardless of if we could have managed it a bit better the real issue is the legacy of a decade of mismanagement by Ashley not growing the commercial side of the club at all leaving a mountain to climb for the new owners to please psr. Our commercial revenue was absolutely appalling for a club of our size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Al Hilal play 4-2-3-1 with Mitro up top don't they? And Mitro is firing like crazy - I don't buy it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, Ben said: £10 million max with his goal scoring record compared to someone like Chris Wood I think it's fair to say that Darwin Nunez has a lot more to his game than Chris Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I think it's fair to say that Darwin Nunez has a lot more to his game than Chris Wood. Well I think he's fucking shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 hours ago, timeEd32 said: I don’t know why people get so defensive about her. i would bet an entire month's wage that the tone of the conversation would be completely different had she been a fat, bald bloke in a gilet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Amanda was a great voice. She's a suit but seemed authentic in energy. The other suits feel like suits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, enthusiast said: i would bet an entire month's wage that the tone of the conversation would be completely different had she been a fat, bald bloke in a gilet. You called? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 A lot of movement on PZ NewCo on companies house today. Not a clue what any of it means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: You called? Grok gives us Buster Blood vessel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Former Newcastle United chief Amanda Staveley 'accepts' major PIF-linked role after Spurs and Liverpool links Former Newcastle United chief Amanda Staveley is set to be involved in the Saudi World Cup in 2034. https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/former-newcastle-united-chief-amanda-staveley-accepts-major-pif-linked-role-after-spurs-and-liverpool-links-4935933 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 17 minutes ago, MagCA said: A lot of movement on PZ NewCo on companies house today. Not a clue what any of it means. The annual confirmation statement is due on the 19th so looks like they’re just sorting the filing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Pinning the PSR thing on Amanda and Mehrdad solely is really odd behavior, it ignores the fact we had a CEO, CFO and other board members also present. As far as I’m concerned the PSR punishments went from fines to points deductions rather quickly no? So that’s a significant and unforeseen retrade and change in circumstances. Without those two we have none of what we are enjoying now. They should forever be held up in the highest regard within the city and amongst our fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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