TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 22:30 Share Posted yesterday at 22:30 Just now, Fak said: Takes a brave man to go toe-to-toe with Rod. I'm waiting to be told where to go - he's indulged me so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted yesterday at 22:34 Share Posted yesterday at 22:34 Just now, Fak said: Takes a brave man to go toe-to-toe with Rod. Fak, it really annoys me that certain people go on about the right and wrongs regarding Saudia Arabia whilst I am watching a complete maniac that is Trump going mental in the world. I hate Trump with a passion. He's a dangerous threat to the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 22:36 Share Posted yesterday at 22:36 1 minute ago, Rod said: Fak, it really annoys me that certain people go on about the right and wrongs regarding Saudia Arabia whilst I am watching a complete maniac that is Trump going mental in the world. I hate Trump with a passion. He's a dangerous threat to the world. Can't both things be true, though? That KSA is a nasty dictatorship (I know about how it has 'liberalised' a bit recently - I suspect more down to not wanting a revolution from its relatively young population), and Trump is a nasty cunt who is a danger to the planet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted yesterday at 22:38 Share Posted yesterday at 22:38 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: They can also execute you for blasphemy, homosexuality and witchcraft. They can execute on a whim because there is no written law code - it is up to individual judges to make judgements and sentences in their own interpretation of Sharia. It's THEIR laws. Don't do it then. Stop being a witch and be careful about kissing your boyfriend/girlfriend. It's THEIR laws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 22:40 Share Posted yesterday at 22:40 Just now, Rod said: It's THEIR laws. Don't do it then. Stop being a witch and be careful about kissing your boyfriend/girlfriend. It's THEIR laws. I'm all for executing witches and sorcerors, obviously - who wouldn't? - but do you think that gay Saudi Arabians might have an issue with being executed for being born gay? And tbf if it is their laws - why give a shite about what Trump is doing in the US? That's their laws, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted yesterday at 22:40 Share Posted yesterday at 22:40 (edited) 19 hours ago, Rod said: What are you talking about? They prosecute and execute murderers, rapists and other low life's. In the UK they get an equivalent of an Airbnb. As someone who used to volunteer for Trailblazers https://www.trailblazersmentoring.org.uk and did a placement in Peterhead jail during my MH Nursing degree, I’d really have to suggest you refine your search criteria in AirBNB if they’re anything like a U.K. jail. Honestly wish people would actually volunteer to help in these places rather than take bollocks written in the Mail at face value, as jails are yet another thing that have seen insufficient public investment for the past several decades. They’re overcrowded, filthy and falling apart and lots of the education and rehabilitation is almost non-existent and often reliant an charities such as Trailblazers. Yet another case of being too tight to invest the relatively small amount in terms of staff, to try to prevent reoffending (or better yet stop offending before it starts with the youth outreach programs etc) but quite happy to pay the vast quantities to keep people locked up and stuck in cycles of repeat incarceration. Edited 5 hours ago by Ghandis Flip-Flop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted yesterday at 22:43 Share Posted yesterday at 22:43 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: I'm all for executing witches and sorcerors, obviously - who wouldn't? - but do you think that gay Saudi Arabians might have an issue with being executed for being born gay? And tbf if it is their laws - why give a shite about what Trump is doing in the US? That's their laws, too. "What Trump is doing in the US"? Have you not read the news lately? He's a massive threat to world harmony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted yesterday at 22:53 Share Posted yesterday at 22:53 Rod? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 22:56 Share Posted yesterday at 22:56 6 minutes ago, Rod said: "What Trump is doing in the US"? Have you not read the news lately? He's a massive threat to world harmony. Agreed, he is - as is KSA. It isn't a coincidence that the 'peace talks' between the US and Russia re Ukraine took place in Riyadh - minus Ukraine, of course. Who has been funding Wahhabism / Salafism around the world, causing untold harm in Asia and Africa? Some of those taps have been turned off recently, but not all of them. In terms of his actions within the US - if KSA has moral immunity for how the govt conducts itself internally, then so does Trump in the US. MBS is what Trump would love to be, if he could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted yesterday at 23:05 Share Posted yesterday at 23:05 45 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: They literally don't have laws, Rod. There is no Rule of Law in KSA. They do have laws, but it isn’t a written constitution. Sharia law isn’t interpretation to the degree that you state and to be honest you are misrepresenting the country somewhat. Yes, witches wizards and witchcraft (along with music) is considered haram. I have also performed in the pit band for Phantom of the Opera in KSA and in the orchestra for Bocelli when he performed there. Shrek the Musical was also performed there recently. You’re using the ‘it’s legal to kill a man with an arrow in York’ argument and ignoring reality. It isn’t a dictatorship, it is an absolute monarchy. You may not agree with either of these as a ruling structure but there is a difference. For the record I don’t agree with many of the rules there but it is tiresome to hear people spout stuff about KSA and the Middle East with very little or no first hand knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 23:09 Share Posted yesterday at 23:09 2 minutes ago, Fatwax said: They do have laws, but it isn’t a written constitution. Sharia law isn’t interpretation to the degree that you state and to be honest you are misrepresenting the country somewhat. Yes, witches wizards and witchcraft (along with music) is considered haram. I have also performed in the pit band for Phantom of the Opera in KSA and in the orchestra for Bocelli when he performed there. Shrek the Musical was also performed there recently. You’re using the ‘it’s legal to kill a man with an arrow in York’ argument and ignoring reality. It isn’t a dictatorship, it is an absolute monarchy. You may not agree with either of these as a ruling structure but there is a difference. For the record I don’t agree with many of the rules there but it is tiresome to hear people spout stuff about KSA and the Middle East with very little or no first hand knowledge. 'I have anecdotal evidence and got paid to be there for a bit, so everything is hunky dory' The 'arrow in York' is irrelevant - that hasn't been an issue for centuries. For gay Saudis, this is not the case. It is a dictatorship - what else could an absolute monarchy be? It does not have the Rule of Law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Rod said: Fak, it really annoys me that certain people go on about the right and wrongs regarding Saudia Arabia whilst I am watching a complete maniac that is Trump going mental in the world. I hate Trump with a passion. He's a dangerous threat to the world. Let the record show: 1) When I was 20 years old (hint 40 some years ago) I thought Donald Trump was a moron then. 2) I did my bit, but landed in the minority once the votes were tallied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, McDog said: Let the record show: 1) When I was 20 years old (hint 40 some years ago) I thought Donald Trump was a moron then. 2) I did my bit, but landed in the minority once the votes were tallied. Reform are currently on a plurality in the polls in the UK. The world isn’t a happy place atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Wasn't there a thread where all this political stuff was put. Leave this one to football matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 10 hours ago, Rod said: Stop being a witch POTY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, Fatwax said: Shrek the Musical was also performed there recently I’m not getting involved in this debate - but this is a very important point! If they've got Shrek THE MUSICAL all bets are off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 13 hours ago, Rod said: "What Trump is doing in the US"? Have you not read the news lately? He's a massive threat to world harmony. Thought this forum was about football and not politics, but for my pennies worth, is Putin not also a major danger to the world also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 23 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Thought this forum was about football and not politics, but for my pennies worth, is Putin not also a major danger to the world also. He is, even worse if Trump is, at worst, leveraged, at best, in awe of Putin meaning he'll let himself be Putin's fuck toy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Wor Rod just on pure ethanol these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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