Amanda Staveley

[duo]

1 hour ago, Mattoon said:

Said it before, I'll say it again and will continue to say it ad nausea, wor Mandy is the biggest loss to this football club since the takeover, bar nothing and no one else.

Club has never been the same since she left 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

His conversations with Howe were about the shortness of careers and wanting to achieve everything. 

[TRon]

19 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

 

He left because he was promised a new contract and Mitchell decided he didn't need one. Wouldn't have happened under her watch, she would have made sure we paid him what we could. Yes, he probably would have left eventually but he would have been here longer and wouldn't have left so acrimoniously. He's still a rat like.

 

 

We also had to sell Elliott Anderson for a pittance under her watch because we hadn't budgeted properly and had to have a last minute fire sale. Let's lay all the cards on the table if we are remembering the good stuff. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

Club has never been the same since she left 

I would agree with this from an emotional point of view. Definitely feels like something has been missing since she went regardless of the fact that I don’t see her as a panacea. I actually think Hopkinson may be able to bring similar qualities to the club but perhaps in a less visible way.  

[duo]

2 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

I would agree with this from an emotional point of view. Definitely feels like something has been missing since she went regardless of the fact that I don’t see her as a panacea. I actually think Hopkinson may be able to bring similar qualities to the club but perhaps in a less visible way.  

I am still to be impressed with Hopkinson like - says a lot but in the time he's been here what has he actually achieved?  No idea 🤷‍♂️

[Miggys First Goal]

Stopped people WFH and that’s about it. 

[andycap]

I'd have her back as a club mouthpiece definitely maybe a place on the board. 

[TheBrownBottle]

39 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Stopped people WFH and that’s about it. 

Him and Brexit Jim, two peas in a pod

 

edit: I also think this is solid evidence for someone being not just a cunt but a really poor manager

 

 

Edited Friday at 21:45 by TheBrownBottle

[SUPERTOON]

11 hours ago, TRon said:

 

 

We also had to sell Elliott Anderson for a pittance under her watch because we hadn't budgeted properly and had to have a last minute fire sale. Let's lay all the cards on the table if we are remembering the good stuff. 

This is what I don’t understand, she is blamed for this, however, as we know, every single little decision at this club goes through PIF. They would have known what was going on and are just as much to blame.

[ffs]

i love(d) Amanda, too. but i think had she stayed we'd still have been stymied by the cartel's intensifying and successful efforts to throttle us. she was a fantastic presence, and happened to be around in that very brief window where we were allowed to sign legit v v good players bruno, the rat, gordon, botman etc, and an elite level dof. her success with us was a combination of a great person and great timing.

[Andy]

11 hours ago, TRon said:

 

 

We also had to sell Elliott Anderson for a pittance under her watch because we hadn't budgeted properly and had to have a last minute fire sale. Let's lay all the cards on the table if we are remembering the good stuff. 

 

The Anderson deal only looks bad in hindsight. If you go back in his thread to the day we sold him, almost everyone in here couldn't believe we'd received so much (when it was rumoured as £35m) for a player who hadn't really contributed very much at all for us.  

 

It essentially covered the cost of bringing in a bunch of players that allowed us to attain CL football and win a trophy. 

 

Nobody would be that bothered about the Anderson deal if we'd built on the trophy win properly last season. 

[healthyaddiction]

Just now, Andy said:

 

The Anderson deal only looks bad in hindsight. If you go back in his thread to the day we sold him, almost everyone in here couldn't believe we'd received so much (when it was rumoured as £35m) for a player who hadn't really contributed very much at all for us.  

 

It essentially covered the cost of bringing in a bunch of players that allowed us to attain CL football and win a trophy. 

 

Nobody would be that bothered about the Anderson deal if we'd built on the trophy win properly last season. 

I think everyone couldn't believe how much we got for him until it turned out we bought Forest's third choice goalkeeper for 20m. At that point everyone saw what a bad deal it was.

[toon25]

In a world full of cunts in this game, she was just seemingly a really lovely lady.

[Wallsendmag]

She was class. A truely amazing person. Obviously being the person to rid us of the FCB she'll always have a special place in the hearts of every Newcastle supporter but she just felt like the glue that held the club together and the very person you want to be the figurehead of the football club. I've got no real interest in womens football but even the way she brought the womens team into the spotlight and gave the lasses some memorable experiences at SJP was lovely. Most, if not all of those will probably never get to experience playing in front of 30,000 again.

 

Not sure if she was to blame for having to sell Anderson or not (obviously we all know where the real blame lies) but I'd have thought all major financial decisions would need approved and signed off by the chairman, Al-Rumayyan.

 

Anyway I'll always only hold her in the highest regard. Would love to see her back as we've always felt a bit rudderless in my eyes since her and Mehrdad left.

[STM]

I loved Amanda Staveley too but she was a massive tory and that should never be forgotten. 

 

[Andy]

1 hour ago, healthyaddiction said:

I think everyone couldn't believe how much we got for him until it turned out we bought Forest's third choice goalkeeper for 20m. At that point everyone saw what a bad deal it was.

 

The numbers were clearly fiddled to satisfy both team's PSR shortcomings. Thought that was common knowledge. 

 

Selling Anderson who had never scored for us, provided one assist, and had been largely average in Howe's system, in order to keep the players that won us a cup and finished 5th in the league, is okay business in my book. The wider context of the deal has been completely forgotten because City want to vastly overpay for him. 

[ffs]

3 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

The numbers were clearly fiddled to satisfy both team's PSR shortcomings. Thought that was common knowledge. 

they absolutely were. but i think the main point here was that when we thought we'd sold Anderson for 35mm we all thought we'd done an incredible piece of business. it obviously looks pretty disastrous all round now, but it wasn't at all obvious then that we'd sold a crown jewel

[healthyaddiction]

11 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

The numbers were clearly fiddled to satisfy both team's PSR shortcomings. Thought that was common knowledge. 

 

Selling Anderson who had never scored for us, provided one assist, and had been largely average in Howe's system, in order to keep the players that won us a cup and finished 5th in the league, is okay business in my book. The wider context of the deal has been completely forgotten because City want to vastly overpay for him. 

Yes, the numbers were fiddled for PSR, but that's the point. You said people were happy with £35m. Yes, they were, until it turned out it was really effectively £15m. It's wrong to say the deal only looks bad in hindsight. It looked bad at the time, beyond the sort period where people thought we actually were receiving £35m for him.

[Andy]

Just now, healthyaddiction said:

Yes, the numbers were fiddled for PSR, but that's the point. You said people were happy with £35m. Yes, they were, until it turned out it was really effectively £15m. It's wrong to say the deal only looks bad in hindsight. It looked bad at the time, beyond the sort period where people thought we actually were receiving £35m for him.

 

With the benefit of hindsight, even if it was £15m (which it wasn't) would receiving £20m more for him really have made it a better sale if he goes to City for £130m? 

 

The money itself is largely irrelevant. The context of the transfer IS relevant, as it effectively retroactively enabled the signings of Bruno, Isak, Botman, Trippier, Burn, Tonali, Barnes, Gordon, Hall, Livramento etc. All of whom contributed more to this club than Anderson. 

[lovejoy]

5 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

With the benefit of hindsight, even if it was £15m (which it wasn't) would receiving £20m more for him really have made it a better sale if he goes to City for £130m? 

 

The money itself is largely irrelevant. The context of the transfer IS relevant, as it effectively retroactively enabled the signings of Bruno, Isak, Botman, Trippier, Burn, Tonali, Barnes, Gordon, Hall, Livramento etc. All of whom contributed more to this club than Anderson. 

and were instrumental in a cup win.

[Wallsendmag]

37 minutes ago, STM said:

I loved Amanda Staveley too but she was a massive tory and that should never be forgotten. 

 

 

Her and Sir John Hall both Tories and 2 of the most influential figures in the history of Newcastle United. Their political leanings are of no concern to me, you or Newcastle United.

[Mattoon]

Its swings and roundabouts though, whether you blame her or not for the loss of Minteh and Anderson, if she hadn't have push thr boat out to make us better and stayed within the financial constraints, that let's be honest are the real blame here, then we wouldn't have had the likes of Bruno and Isak. We speculated, we got CL and won a cup, it was worth it.

 

As for Amanda herself, she was a great ambassador for the club, I have no doubt that her enthusiasm for the project is what drove a lot of our early purchases. But she also gave the club heart, from owners, to manager, players and fans, she bridged the gap, she was the glue and its not surprising that it all feels a little disjointed without her. Players unhappy, manager out of sorts and looking forlorn, dried up communication from the ownership and fans feeling like they're looking in a bit from the outside again.

 

There's an argument there that she was in situ at the perfect time for the club, feel good factor and all that, but I genuinely believe that if she was still here then that moral would be too. Such a great orator and deal maker to boot.

 

She may not have had the football acumen of say Hopkinson but she had so much more in spades that we are direly missing in her absence.

[Toon No9]

51 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

She was class. A truely amazing person. Obviously being the person to rid us of the FCB she'll always have a special place in the hearts of every Newcastle supporter but she just felt like the glue that held the club together and the very person you want to be the figurehead of the football club. I've got no real interest in womens football but even the way she brought the womens team into the spotlight and gave the lasses some memorable experiences at SJP was lovely. Most, if not all of those will probably never get to experience playing in front of 30,000 again.

 

Not sure if she was to blame for having to sell Anderson or not (obviously we all know where the real blame lies) but I'd have thought all major financial decisions would need approved and signed off by the chairman, Al-Rumayyan.

 

Anyway I'll always only hold her in the highest regard. Would love to see her back as we've always felt a bit rudderless in my eyes since her and Mehrdad left.

I agree with everything there.

 

She was a person who could sell a vision. Something we've missed sience the Keegan days(or Robson to a degree).

[STM]

3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Her and Sir John Hall both Tories and 2 of the most influential figures in the history of Newcastle United. Their political leanings are of no concern to me, you or Newcastle United.

 

Absolutely brilliant leaders of newcastle but my concerns over the political leanings of the people running my club arent for you to dictate. 

 

Weve got Saudis running our club, I dont like it, there's nothing i can do about it but im allowed to have a view on it.

 

But yeah, it might be of no concern to you but again I couldnt care less what you think.

[Dokko]

Amanda made this ownership worthwhile. Gave someone I could buy into, someone who thought of the fans with every single decision (and even if she didn't, she sold it as she did and that gives enough good energy to the players, staff and fans)

 

We were a much happier club with her here.