Amanda Staveley

[Groundhog63]

11 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Her and Sir John Hall both Tories and 2 of the most influential figures in the history of Newcastle United. Their political leanings are of no concern to me, you or Newcastle United.

Racist John Hall didn't put a farthing into the club.

Took a canny bit off it tho 

 

 

 

[r0cafella]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

 

The Anderson deal only looks bad in hindsight. If you go back in his thread to the day we sold him, almost everyone in here couldn't believe we'd received so much (when it was rumoured as £35m) for a player who hadn't really contributed very much at all for us.  

 

It essentially covered the cost of bringing in a bunch of players that allowed us to attain CL football and win a trophy. 

 

Nobody would be that bothered about the Anderson deal if we'd built on the trophy win properly last season. 

15m net for Anderson was always awful. 

 

It's actually even less profit given Vlach is likely paid more than Anderson was too  

[Wallsendmag]

20 minutes ago, STM said:

 

Absolutely brilliant leaders of newcastle but my concerns over the political leanings of the people running my club arent for you to dictate. 

 

Weve got Saudis running our club, I dont like it, there's nothing i can do about it but im allowed to have a view on it.

 

But yeah, it might be of no concern to you but again I couldnt care less what you think.

 

She votes for a different party to you. Big deal. Get over it.

[Wallsendmag]

16 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Racist John Hall didn't put a farthing into the club.

Took a canny bit off it tho 

 

 

 

 

He gave you the Keegan years. The best days of your NUFC watching life. He also transformed a crumbling wreck of a ground which was an absolute embarrassment, into what was at the time one of the best stadiums in Europe.

[enthusiast]

2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

He gave you the Keegan years. The best days of your NUFC watching life. He also transformed a crumbling wreck of a ground which was an absolute embarrassment, into what was at the time one of the best stadiums in Europe.

 

 

I'm not going to kiss the arse of somebody who in other walk of life would be my enemy because they gave me Faustino Asprilla. To do so would be the dictionary definition of sportswashing in the most forelock-tugging sense of the word.

 

[Wallsendmag]

3 minutes ago, enthusiast said:

 

 

I'm not going to kiss the arse of somebody who in other walk of life would be my enemy because they gave me Faustino Asprilla. To do so would be the dictionary definition of sportswashing in the most forelock-tugging sense of the word.

 

 

I'm not asking you to kiss his arse. I'm saying that he left us in a far, far better place than he found us and gave us some of our best times watching NUFC in between. To deny that is to rewrite history.

[80]

57 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

With the benefit of hindsight, even if it was £15m (which it wasn't) would receiving £20m more for him really have made it a better sale if he goes to City for £130m? 

 

The money itself is largely irrelevant. The context of the transfer IS relevant, as it effectively retroactively enabled the signings of Bruno, Isak, Botman, Trippier, Burn, Tonali, Barnes, Gordon, Hall, Livramento etc. All of whom contributed more to this club than Anderson. 

Let me know if anyone directly addresses this point, somehow it always gets ignored.

 

Unless someone has a track record of regretting that we signed Isak and wishing we'd stuck with Pedro from Watford instead, I struggle to take them seriously.

[duo]

PIF should be throwing money at Amanda to come back to run the club for them - hopefully she'll head the consortium they're looking to get investment from.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 10:46 by duo

[STM]

1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

She votes for a different party to you. Big deal. Get over it.

 

Ill do as i please thanks. 

 

Eddie Howe is our manager, get over it.

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

He gave you the Keegan years. The best days of your NUFC watching life. He also transformed a crumbling wreck of a ground which was an absolute embarrassment, into what was at the time one of the best stadiums in Europe.

I've said that, ad infinitum, too.

 

"The sign of intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function"

 

He didn't put a penny in and all, that you speak of, was on tick. 

 

Tbf I  don't really give a flying fuck about club owners' politics. Rich people are going to support politics than make them rich. I'm not, however going to pass on an opportunity to call a cunt a cunt. 

[Bishops Finger]

1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said:

Racist John Hall didn't put a farthing into the club.

Took a canny bit off it tho 

 

 

 

Would you rather none of that era ever happened then? He's a businessman. Made us one of the most exciting teams to watch and people still have a go at him

[Groundhog63]

Just now, Bishops Finger said:

Would you rather none of that era ever happened then? He's a businessman. Made us one of the most exciting teams to watch and people still have a go at him

I refer you to the quote " in my previous post 

[TK-421]

3 hours ago, Andy said:

 

The Anderson deal only looks bad in hindsight. If you go back in his thread to the day we sold him, almost everyone in here couldn't believe we'd received so much (when it was rumoured as £35m) for a player who hadn't really contributed very much at all for us.  

 

It essentially covered the cost of bringing in a bunch of players that allowed us to attain CL football and win a trophy. 

 

Nobody would be that bothered about the Anderson deal if we'd built on the trophy win properly last season. 

 

^ This. Huge amounts of hindsight used in regard to Anderson now, simply because of how things have turned out.

But at the time, he hadn't done much on his limited first team chances, albeit played out wide. But, had EH dropped any of Bruno, Tonali or J7 to give him his chance an extended run in the middle, people would have kicked off.

And at the time, had we sold Gordon instead (to Liverpool as he was linked), there'd have been similar uproar.

The forest move is exactly what Anderson needed at the time, and he's done great and is at a WC for England. But had he stayed here, I'd bet his progress still wouldn't have ben the same.

[TRon]

3 hours ago, Andy said:

 

The numbers were clearly fiddled to satisfy both team's PSR shortcomings. Thought that was common knowledge. 

 

Selling Anderson who had never scored for us, provided one assist, and had been largely average in Howe's system, in order to keep the players that won us a cup and finished 5th in the league, is okay business in my book. The wider context of the deal has been completely forgotten because City want to vastly overpay for him. 

 

 

That's because he looked shit in Howe's system IMO. He ended up running into traffic on the left wing, which is not his strength. I still think he'd not work there. 

 

I am the first to admit I thought he wasn't up to the Premier, but he looked a different player as soon as he was placed into the heart of the Forest midfield. Before that he was highly rated, Bristol Rovers fans were raving over him, and as soon as he landed at Forest he was great. Only here under Howe did he fail. He wasn't cut out for it. 

[The College Dropout]

He was just misprofiled under Howe.  He was used as a LCM wide 8 most of the time and run dominant.  
 

He kept that Howe tenacity and work rate but more into a pivot player. He can play as a 8 but as a primary distributor. Hw never had that role under Howe. 
 

In his last half season when we drove up to 7th while Joelinton was out he was good 

[Wolfcastle]

Chris Mort could do a job.

[Novocastrian]

3 hours ago, TK-421 said:

 

^ This. Huge amounts of hindsight used in regard to Anderson now, simply because of how things have turned out.

But at the time, he hadn't done much on his limited first team chances, albeit played out wide. But, had EH dropped any of Bruno, Tonali or J7 to give him his chance an extended run in the middle, people would have kicked off.

And at the time, had we sold Gordon instead (to Liverpool as he was linked), there'd have been similar uproar.

The forest move is exactly what Anderson needed at the time, and he's done great and is at a WC for England. But had he stayed here, I'd bet his progress still wouldn't have ben the same.

Things may have been different if Anderson wasn’t injured during that injury crisis in our first CL campaign under Howe. Miley was used extensively as we could barely put out a team.

 

Anderson would have got a load of games under his belt and possibly made himself unsellable.

[Teslact]

27 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

Chris Mort could do a job.

I liked him at the time, but can't now decide whether he saw through Ashley and that's why he left, or if he was just brought in temporarily to provide a veneer over what was to come.

[The Prophet]

5 hours ago, duo said:

PIF should be throwing money at Amanda to come back to run the club for them - hopefully she'll head the consortium they're looking to get investment from.

 

 

 

 

Not for me. 

[Gawalls]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Not for me. 

Well, it's a yes from me

[The Prophet]

8 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Well, it's a yes from me

 

She was great, she brought a human face to the ownership and she seemed to be able to keep PIF engaged, but she's not what we need anymore.

 

I don't think you can have a director at a football club who players and management have a direct line into, especially one who will very rarely say no to them. It blurs the lines and has far too much potential to get messy.

 

It would certainly explain why she didn't get along with Ashworth and how our PSR problems got out of hand. 

 

There's also the capability of PCP Partners to invest in-line with the rest of the ownership, especially given it's non-football issues.

 

Ultimately none of what we achieved would be possible without her and we should be grateful for that. I also agree, we need a day-to-day figure at the club directly from PIF or who is trusted to delegate decision making to, but I don't think that person should be Stavely. 

[nufcjb]

I agree. Can't be wor Mandy. She has done her part for the club and we'll be forever grateful for that. But we're not a match to what she wants and she's not a match for what we need.

 

She'd fit right in at somewhere like Harchester United.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 16:35 by nufcjb

[Bunk Moreland]

 

[duo]

[Miggys First Goal]

Feels like your ex-lass moving on and you’re still pining for her.