Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[toon25]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Dude, this has been going on since the very beginning with some people. Yeah, Howe obviously hasn't hit the ground running. This was a great site and still often is, but some of this over the top negativity is just exhausting. Some absolutely miserable people on here who seem to revel in the "i said from the beginning". If they are right about him, it's by pure fucking accident.

People are rightly pissed off at the result today. A large portion of the  blame for that result lies with the manager. Maybe it's a case of some folk joining dots, and for others it's baseless negativity, but to suggest people are throwing their toys out of the pram because they're levelling criticism at an underperforming manager is wrong.

[et tu brute]

4 minutes ago, LV said:

I think some people are knee-jerking all over the place here.

 

The squad is shit and have a brittle mentality that’s come from years of makeshift squad building literally to keep us in a top league on a shoestring in order to advertise that cunt’s tat emporium. 
 

The only thing that’s on Howe today is taking off Murphy and playing Longstaff for longer than 45 mins. 

Not knee jerking on my part, I said he was totally the wrong choice when his name was first mentioned and I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise 

[WillingtonMag]

Shouldn't have played our strongest side today a cup run was the last thing we need anyways, Trippier limping about at the end there could end up missing a 6 pointer next weekend.

[Yorkie]

Can't deny that Howe hasn't changed enough about us in terms of results but I don't feel like we're in a position to make any judgements at this point. If Ciaran Clark doesn't make the foul against Norwich, we're level on points with 17th; if the previous regime allowed us to accommodate more than one striker in the squad, we're in the 4th Round of the cup.

 

It's hardly been an impressive start but it's because of fine margins and a couple of things out of his control that we're not sitting here saying, he's had an okay start, as opposed to a bad one. 

 

Let's see how we're playing come March/April time before declaring him a dickhead and a fraud.

[Guest reefatoon]

11 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

I also think that a top manager would be getting more out of Willock already, if Willock wants it.  So either Howe is not doing well there or Willock just can't be arsed.

Willock just didn’t want to know when he came on. Was a disgraceful display. Hid most of the game and made zero effort. Bet he was one of them straight down the tunnel. Needs to stop huffing and get on with giving his all for the team.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by reefatoon

[Dan Gleebals]

Not so much a critisism but why not start one of the young stikers today and have a proper look? Not saying they are the answer but in the grand scheme of things, if you are going to lose a game like that, you may as well try something different.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, Yorkie said:

Can't deny that Howe hasn't changed enough about us in terms of results but I don't feel like we're in a position to make any judgements at this point. If Ciaran Clark doesn't make the foul against Norwich, we're level on points with 17th; if the previous regime allowed us to accommodate more than one striker in the sets, we're in the 4th Round of the cup.

 

It's hardly been an impressive start but it's because of fine margins and a couple of things out of his control that we're not sitting here saying, he's had an okay start, as opposed to a bad one. 

 

Let's see how we're playing come March/April time before declaring him a dickhead and a fraud.

 

But Howe should never have played Clark against Norwich, that’s on him too.

[Guest neesy111]

Just now, toon25 said:

People are rightly pissed off at the result today. A large portion of the  blame for that result lies with the manager. Maybe it's a case of some folk joining dots, and for others it's baseless negativity, but to suggest people are throwing their toys out of the pram because they're levelling criticism at an underperforming manager is wrong.

 

I was happy with his appointment, but I'm getting concerned I have to say.

 

Saying it's the squad only this result is making excuses for him today.  We looked very predictable for most of that match.

[WillingtonMag]

Don't think he's a push over at all mind think he will be having some harsh words in the dressing room with some people. Hopefully that gets a reaction out of them next weekend.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by WillingtonMag

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, toon25 said:

People are rightly pissed off at the result today. A large portion of the  blame for that result lies with the manager. Maybe it's a case of some folk joining dots, and for others it's baseless negativity, but to suggest people are throwing their toys out of the pram because they're levelling criticism at an underperforming manager is wrong.

Fair enough on that. But some on here are just utterly annoying and seem to rather want to be right over anything else. I guess you're right though. I should just let everyone blow off steam after such a dog shit result.

[Ben]

If we lose 1 0 against Cambridge this time next year Howe is to blame, but not now this defeat lies at Ashley and Bruce's door

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Ben

[Decky]

If Howe keeps us up I hope some of the comments in this thread are bumped immediately following the final whistle that confirms our safety. 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

12 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

He completely lost control of the game when went went a goal down.  There genuinely wasn't a coherent plan from that moment on, it was a complete mess.

Got to agree here. He didn’t seem to see the biggest problem was we had no out-and-out striker

[LV]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Not knee jerking on my part, I said he was totally the wrong choice when his name was first mentioned and I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise 

You’re excused then 

[Big Geordie]

As I said in the match thread - these players will see us relegated. Too many don't care/have given up and I'm not sure Howe can sort this out between now and the end of the season. Needs a huge clearout come what may.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

Just now, Dan Gleebals said:

Not so much a critisism but why not start one of the young stikers today and have a proper look? Not saying they are the answer but in the grand scheme of things, if you are going to lose a game like that, you may as well try something different.

This is where I’m at, why persist with players who we know aren’t good enough for where we want to be as a club.

[Sean]

Which players went straight down the tunnel then? Happy if they never play for the club again if they ignored calls to stay and applaud the fans with the rest of the team

[Holmesy]

Give him the benefit of the doubt - he inherited a piss weak squad with one striker  and no creativity. We’ve seen some improvements in general but until we change the personnel we’ll still be shit. I’ll judge him from the end of January and if we’re still shite he deserves the pelters.

[David Edgar]

Just now, Decky said:

If Howe keeps us up I hope some of the comments in this thread are bumped immediately following the final whistle that confirms our safety. 

 

Eh?  Are we not allowed to call a shit managerial performance a shit managerialism performance?

[BlackandWhite]

Like some others, I suspect he isn’t good enough, though it’s still too early to judge whether that suspicion is correct or not. It’s been a bit hit and miss so far. Today and Leicester being the biggest misses.

[Sandrotastico]

Keeping the faith with Eddie. We need to give him some better tools to use.

When I say Tools, I mean the worthwhile type.

[Jackie Broon]

7 hours ago, Decky said:

Can't see how this is Howe's fault. He put out a near full strength side. The players are dreadful and spineless, no amount of management can change that. These players need fucked off for some proper players and then we can start judging Howe. Guardiola couldn't motivate the wankers we have at the club right now. 

 

Whilst yes, we need to judge him when we have more new players in, it is worrying how little the results and performances have improved under him.

 

Motivating players to get the most out of what you have is the definition of good management, you see it all the time in football where a team can look spineless under one manager then committed and organised under another.

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Jackie Broon

[Klaus]

Just now, Big Geordie said:

As I said in the match thread - these players will see us relegated. Too many don't care/have given up and I'm not sure Howe can sort this out between now and the end of the season. Needs a huge clearout come what may.

 

A lot of the plodders know their time is up. Shelvey, Richie, Longstaff should have been shown the door years ago.

[Decky]

Just now, David Edgar said:

 

Eh?  Are we not allowed to call a shit managerial performance a shit managerialism performance?

 

Those aren't the comments I'm talking about. 

[Dr Jinx]

He’s going to have to gut this squad.
 

Would not surprise me if there was some sort of players committee, the dregs worried about being replaced and they are sticking together to try and keep standards low.