Eddie Howe

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Weird comment when we’ve seen many of the same players improved under Rafa. It’s glaringly obvious you can get more from this group.

 

That was 3 years ago. Would they be better defending for their lives? Not for most of this season they haven't, we were shipping goals despite parking the bus. 

[Mike]

The Murphy sub was odd and I don't see what he sees in Longstaff, but we're dogshit and have been since long before him.

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

One post from a well known unhinged poster. Most of the criticism is totally fair and not even that bad 

It's been a few people, but they are generally the loudest, which makes it seem worse than it is.

[Minhosa]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

It's been a few people, but they are generally the loudest, which makes it seem worse than it is.

What, asking for him to be sacked?

[Guest Biggsbond14]

Baffling to take murphy off and can’t see any reason at all to put Ritchie anywhere near the  pitch he is dog shit , Almirón did absolutely nothing but make him self dizzy and asm is a over hyped show pony with zero intelligence, add a new keeper for next season too too many errors slipping in now 

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, ManDoon said:

One post from a well known unhinged poster. Most of the criticism is totally fair and not even that bad 

Not sure like, I'm seeing a fair bit of 'I'm not saying we should get divorced, but...' sort of energy like.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, TRon said:

 

That was 3 years ago. Would they be better defending for their lives? Not for most of this season they haven't, we were shipping goals despite parking the bus. 

 

What are you talking about? The point is, Howe could (and should) be getting more from this group of players.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Minhosa said:

What, asking for him to be sacked?

At least seeming to imply it. But I am agreeing that it's not the vast majority in any way.

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Are you Kid Icarus btw?

I am yeah.

[The Butcher]

I really don't want to, but I can see myself losing faith in him if we fail to beat Watford. We've had a lot of winnable games during his short tenure and we've still only won once.

 

It's not been good enough. He can't keep losing games.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

I don’t want him sacked like, but the insinuation of an ‘overreaction’ from fans to the result seems odd.

 

It’s a shocking day for the club.

[Menace]

Not wanting him as manager initially because I thought he's completely the wrong man for the job at heart is being pedantic apparently

[Andy]

4 minutes ago, Elephant said:

In all fairness, if Bruce managed to keep this team with these players in Premier League last season, then we seriously need to start asking more from Howe.

 

He is nice bloke and says good things, but can’t help thinking what these results had been with Emery.

 

 

 

 

 

Bruce had this team winless and on trajectory to be comfortably one of the worst premier league teams of all time. That's what Howe inherited, not the team that finished last season.

 

The names might be the same, but the rot is the problem. Momentum is a hard thing to turn around in football. 

[Minhosa]

1 minute ago, kisearch said:

I am yeah.

Cheers

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

This is the body language debacle all over again

You'll see it if you have a read back through the last few pages 

[WillingtonMag]

End of the day win next weekend and this all forgot about, after the Watford game will be time to ask questions. 

[DMLeazesender]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

Bruce had this team winless and on trajectory to be comfortably one of the worst premier league teams of all time. That's what Howe inherited, not the team that finished last season.

 

The names might be the same, but the rot is the problem. Momentum is a hard thing to turn around in football. 

This.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Menace said:

Not wanting him as manager initially because I thought he's completely the wrong man for the job at heart is being pedantic apparently

You apparently need a brushing up on what pedantic means then, dude. You were being pedantic about pointing out the offhand 560 page comment, knowing full well what I meant.

[Klaus]

5 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

 

1 win in 9 and knocked out the cup by a league 1 side.  He'd be getting a far rougher ride at quite a few other clubs.

 

 its hardly unreasonable to give him some criticism. It doesn't mean i want him sacked though.

[Andy]

1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

Also agree with this but if I was playing devils advocate Bruce would constantly say “I can’t change the style of play overnight l!!11”

 

I think the issue there was that was that he was trying to change a style of play that was effective to begin with, without understanding it. It just came across as tone deaf. 

[Big Geordie]

23 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

He keeps us up and he’s done his first job.

 

The first few months of KK’s first spell were pretty bad as well. The following season was when we kicked on 

It wasn't great at towards the end of 91/92, but at least we saw some fight.

 

That's not present with this lot.

[The Prophet]

11 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

 

So just criticism of him after losing at home to league 1 Cambridge = forum mood of wanting him sacked.  Yes, some had said he's shite etc but that is not a forum mood.

 

That's one of the worst takes I can remember.

 

 

 

 

As a result  of today, there's been people making personal insults at the manager, folk worrying potential targets will be put off and others commenting that we're relegated.

 

That's obviously rationale criticism of the manager (which is absolutely fair game) though?

[MarkyMark]

35 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

Someone needs to have a word with Howe, and quick.

 

Plenty of managers lose games at Newcastle.  But the crowd turns fast if you insult their intelligence - and that’s what Howe is doing there.  Fucking Pardew-esque bullshit.  Come out, be honest, say it isn’t good enough and apologise.  Because today is a black day in the club’s history.

 

And defeat vs Watford at the weekend will expose him to real criticism following this.

 

The only positive I can think of is that this might make the ownership pull their fingers out of their arse and get some signings in.  I’m still astonished that the window has been open over a week and there is only one through the door.  They don’t have the luxury of time. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

It wasn't great at towards the end of 91/92, but at least we saw some fight.

 

That's not present with this lot.

 

Didn't you watch the match before this one? The results haven't come yet, but I dunno how anyone can't see a huge improvement in how we play and the dedication of most of the players.

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, MarkyMark said:

Someone needs to have a word with Howe, and quick.

 

Plenty of managers lose games at Newcastle.  But the crowd turns fast if you insult their intelligence - and that’s what Howe is doing there.  Fucking Pardew-esque bullshit.  Come out, be honest, say it isn’t good enough and apologise.  Because today is a black day in the club’s history.

 

And defeat vs Watford at the weekend will expose him to real criticism following this.

 

The only positive I can think of is that this might make the ownership pull their fingers out of their arse and get some signings in.  I’m still astonished that the window has been open over a week and there is only one through the door.  They don’t have the luxury of time.