Thomson Mouse Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: He'll be doing that in private, he'll always defend his players in front of the press. Yep. It’s not rocket science. Ferguson and Wenger were great at it, even creating diversions in public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Dublin1974 said: Long term project, that phrase makes me nervous Look at Man City. Taken over in 2008. £350m and 3 years before they won a trophy, £510m and 4 years before they won the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Gotta stick with him. Love his honesty and work ethic. Just hope he gets a little luck and a few decent players to help him. Clubs still rotting and he's ageing by the day. Poor bugger! We've gotta give him our full backing. At least until the Summer. Edited January 9, 2022 by Oregon_Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Oregon_Geordie said: Gotta stick with him. Love his honesty and work ethic. Just hope he gets a little luck and a few decent players to help him. Clubs still rotting and he's ageing by the day. Poor bugger! We've gotta give him our full backing. At least until the Summer. That’s definitely a blot against him yesterday but our squad is a terrible mix of culture of losing, acceptance of poor standards, and just not good enough. The whole core of the team will need replacing one way or another the next few years. I still like what I see and hear from him but the next few weeks are huge with the games coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 hours ago, ManDoon said: Pilko is totally entitled to his opinion we shouldn’t be jumping down people’s throats for it imo. I’m hardly jumping down his throat am I. I’m asking his opinion on what should be done about the manager he doesn’t feel is right for the job. i don’t think Ritchie is right for the left back role, so I want him replaced. Is that the answer with Howe too? people don’t want Howe as manager but don’t want to be seen calling for the sack. What then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I agree, his record of wins since coming in hasn’t been great especially as we have had some very winnable home games in the run so far. I just don’t see him being sacked no matter which division we end up in next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, andyc35i said: I agree, his record of wins since coming in hasn’t been great especially as we have had some very winnable home games in the run so far. I just don’t see him being sacked no matter which division we end up in next year On the point about sacking, we really have no idea what type of owners we have with regards to that, for example say we spend 100 million or more this month, can you really see them accepting relegation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Catching up with the last few pages and I have to point out that what EH said about the performance was we played ‘OK’. And he added a caveat by saying he realised it might sound odd to a few. He didn’t say we played well, that’s completely different. We’re not in Bruce territory at all man, have a word with yourselves. Edited January 9, 2022 by Dr Venkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Catching up with the last few pages and I have to point out that what EH said about the performance was we played ‘OK’. And he added a caveat by saying he realised it might sound odd to a few. He didn’t say we played well, that’s completely different. We’re not in Bruce territory at all man, have a word with yourselves. it's not entirely untrue, either, to say we did play "okay" for a good chunk of the game, we were just toothless and went into panic mode towards the end. If we'd taken our chances it could easily have been been 4-1, 5-1, and we're calling it a job done. Of course, it does sound daft when you've just lost against a side from the lower leagues. But the problem IMO is less the performance itself and more the bluntness up front, which is only going to be solved by adding new players. If you have a squad full of players who are scared of scoring, it doesn't matter what league your opposition are from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 After reflection it wasn't as bad as it felt last night like. I've just never seen so many players fluff their lines infront of goal before. Murphy thinking it's FIFA and that you can side foot them in from 20 yards was the most irritating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I do feel as those he will have learnt more about some of them yesterday then he has in the couple of months he’s been here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin1974 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Dublin1974 said: Hi.first post, had big worries about howe, I think we are in bigger trouble than we think , he's absolutely lifeless on the touchline, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The main problem is 80% of the squad currently at the club know they have no future no matter what Howe does. Not sure any manager comes in and makes this look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin1974 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I agree, but also look at Everton, Leeds, Middlesbrough, players have cleaned out them clubs , man city are the exception Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Pilko said: You probably can't get rid already but I worry at the idea of spending £100m+ on players he wants. I'm not sure, I don't have the answers, but I'm fairly sure the answer isn't Howe. This. I've got the feeling we'd end up with half the Bournemouth team that got relegated if he had his choice of targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Dublin1974 said: Oscar Wilde lives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 In typical Newcastle fashion we're getting a new manager slump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, 1964 said: In typical Newcastle fashion we're getting a new manager slump What was our last new manager bounce? Roeder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beth said: This. I've got the feeling we'd end up with half the Bournemouth team that got relegated if he had his choice of targets. And you’re basing that on………. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Beth said: This. I've got the feeling we'd end up with half the Bournemouth team that got relegated if he had his choice of targets. Here (s)he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Is Beth not Burnsie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) My reflection on the game is: regardless of all the failings within the squad - it's good enough to beat a League 1 team. This was the perfect game to score 3, 4 goals - get the confidence up with the players ahead of the Premier League fixtures and give the fans a game to enjoy. The fact we looked poor against them for me the buck stops at Howe. It's his job to get the players up for this game and to get the tactics right. He failed on both. Edited January 9, 2022 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, duo said: My reflection on the game is: regardless of all the failings within the squad - it's good enough to be beat a League 1 team. This was the perfect game to score 3, 4 goals - get the confidence up with the players ahead of the Premier League fixtures and give the fans a game to enjoy. The fact we looked poor against them for me the buck stops at Howe. It's his job to get the players up for this game and to get the tactics right. He failed on both. They all failed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, duo said: My reflection on the game is: regardless of all the failings within the squad - it's good enough to beat a League 1 team. This was the perfect game to score 3, 4 goals - get the confidence up with the players ahead of the Premier League fixtures and give the fans a game to enjoy. The fact we looked poor against them for me the buck stops at Howe. It's his job to get the players up for this game and to get the tactics right. He failed on both. Personally feel this is a harsh take on Howe. If players 2 divisions above their opponent cannot show sufficient confidence to go at them and/or enough professionalism to put them to bed then there's an attitude/mentality issue. Whilst that is to some degree Howe's job to achieve, he's got a squad with one win all season. The players need to take it upon themselves to get their collective heads out there arses and show why they want to be a part of this motion. If they're not upto it mentally, then they need shifting ASAP. There was poor decision making all across the pitch yesterday but particularly in the final third, the tactics weren't the issue, the lack of awareness of players and conviction was. Edited January 9, 2022 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I don’t think it really matters what level of opponent we’re playing right now. The squad is rock bottom on quality and shot to bits mentally. Any decent football team from any level has a chance to beat us in the right circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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