Eddie Howe

[jackyboy]

Difficult to improve defensively when you have no proper defenders. Willock has been a total disaster this season and on current showing we paid £19 million too much for him. The set up is much better organised under Howe and 2/3 decent players would make a massive difference. We don't need world beaters at the moment just decent footballers

[Minhosa]

Judge him at end of January for me but on the showing so far there are only two positives for me; Joelinton and the fact Howe seems to 'get it' in terms of harnessing unity.

 

Otherwise, there's many many mistakes to balance these out.

 

Said it at the time and will say it again, Rafa keeps us up from here. Massively doubtful Howe can.

[Pata]

2 minutes ago, Smal said:

There aren't any circumstances where it's appropriate to play Clark over Schar. Especially if Ritchie's going to be down that side too.

 

Schär most likely needed the rest as he hasn't been playing much for ages. Much rather throw Clark in to play in the game where we have less than 5% chance of winning and guarantee you have Schär for the Man U game.

[TRon]

He's going to get hammered this month, but he'll get it right once the easier fixtures come round. 

[nufc123]

Just now, jackyboy said:

Difficult to improve defensively when you have no proper defenders. Willock has been a total disaster this season and on current showing we paid £19 million too much for him. The set up is much better organised under Howe and 2/3 decent players would make a massive difference. We don't need world beaters at the moment just decent footballers

The defenders are not good enough, but the goals are so easy. Waaay to easy. We are so open its a disgrace.

[54]

Get in defenders who can actually defend, and I think we'll be alright with him in charge, i've seen enough in our shape and attacking play to say that we will starting picking up the wins, it's just whether its enough. He really did get dealt the worst cards possible. I don't think even Rafa would have had many more points that Howe's got to be honest. 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by 54

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Judge him at end of January for me but on the showing so far there are only two positives for me; Joelinton and the fact Howe seems to 'get it' in terms of harnessing unity.

 

Otherwise, there's many many mistakes to balance these out.

 

Said it at the time and will say it again, Rafa keeps us up from here. Massively doubtful Howe can.

Enery would have been the right choice (he was first choice tbf), but unfortunately someone opened their big mouths and fucked it up.

[Pata]

6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Same squad has comfortably stayed us last two seasons, with a worse manager in charge.

 

This squad is no worse than anyone in the bottom half bar Everton.

 

This squad should have been comfortably relegated as dead last in 19/20 without the massive luck Bruce had.

[54]

8 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Same squad has comfortably stayed us last two seasons, with a worse manager in charge.

 

This squad is no worse than anyone in the bottom half bar Everton.

Nah thats not true, all the other teams have strengthened we bought only Willock in the summer, the squad has been so stagnant for so long, that we're comfortably have one of the three worst squads in the league. 

[Aiston]

Clark...willock again, come on Howe ffs, piss poor from him.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Enery would have been the right choice (he was first choice tbf), but unfortunately someone opened their big mouths and fucked it up.

 

If Emery wanted to be here, he would be. He bottled it so he can get to fuck tbh. 

[Away Toon]

While Eddie fiddles NUFC burns.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

This squad should have been comfortably relegated as dead last in 19/20 without the massive luck Bruce had.

 

I remember going through a patch where we were absolutely awful but kept picking up points from goals scored by defenders. I mean that shit only happens once in a blue moon. Bruce was an abomination. 

[Big Geordie]

No real new manager bounce and the defence looks even worse than it did under cabbage-heed. Eddie has a job on.

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

Nah thats not true, all the other teams have strengthened we bought only Willock in the summer, the squad has been so stagnant for so long, that we're comfortably have one of the three worst squads in the league. 

 

How have Leeds, Burnley, Norwich, Southampton, Brighton and Watford strengthened?

 

They’ve got the same shit they’ve had too. 
 

We’re no worse than any of them.

[hakka]

I am more and more feeling Howe is right man at wrong time for us. I'll judge him once he's brought his players in from January and had a go, but for what he's improved in possession and getting up the pitch, it's not getting enough goals and it's leaking them at the other end something chronic. We should have been looking for a point today, really sit deep, frustrate City with defending in numbers and counter attack with ASM and Wilson. These defenders are so bad they need a lot of help when against real quality. Did Howe really think we could attack and get goals without that back 4 falling apart over 90 mins?

 

Some games you have to accept it's better to not lose and setup that way over trusting a terrible back 4 to suddenly start getting clean sheets. I feel I'm being harsh, but expected a bit better from Howe. Still support him and knew this run of hard games would be tough.

 

Murphy, Clark, Lascelles and Ritchie is a shocking back 4.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, hakka said:

I am more and more feeling Howe is right man at wrong time for us. I'll judge him once he's brought his players in from January and had a go, but for what he's improved in possession and getting up the pitch, it's not getting enough goals and it's leaking them at the other end something chronic. We should have been looking for a point today, really sit deep, frustrate City with defending in numbers and counter attack with ASM and Wilson. These defenders are so bad they need a lot of help when against real quality. Did Howe really think we could attack and get goals without that back 4 falling apart over 90 mins?

 

Some games you have to accept it's better to not lose and setup that way over trusting a terrible back 4 to suddenly start getting clean sheets. I feel I'm being harsh, but expected a bit better from Howe. Still support him and knew this run of hard games would be tough.

 

Murphy, Clark, Lascelles and Ritchie is a shocking back 4.

 

 

I get what you are saying but we were losing games playing defensively as well this season, against much worse sides as well. What did we have when Bruce left? 3 points from 7 games wasn't it?

 

 

[The Prophet]

The only one I think he got massively wrong was Leicester. 

[The Bonk]

16 minutes ago, Ken Boon said:

Would like to have seen Howe start a couple of the under 23 defenders today instead of picking the usual dross. The experience would have done them good  What is it with NUFC not giving young uns a chance?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Against Man City?  I suppose humiliation is a NUFC right of passage. 

[Foluwashola]

There's absolutely nee point in judging him until he's at least had a window under his belt. Not going to learn much from watching this gaggle of doylums attempt to play one of the best teams in the world.

 

Let him get a proper defence in and try to compete against our fellow wastes of space.

 

 

 

 

[54]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

 

How have Leeds, Burnley, Norwich, Southampton, Brighton and Watford strengthened?

 

They’ve got the same shit they’ve had too. 
 

We’re no worse than any of them.

Starting 11 players from each of them clubs that are better then what we have, and would jump in our team:

 

Leeds: Ayling, Phillips, Dallas, Klich, Raphinha, James, Bamford, Harrison

Burnley: Pope, Tarkowski, Wood, Mee - Burnley are in the bottom three with us so it doesnt disprove my point.

Norwich: Gilmour, Aarons, Cantwell - Norwich are in the bottom three with us so it doesnt disprove my point.

Southampton: Livramento, JWP, Walker-Peters, Romeu, Redmond, Che Adams, even both the Armstrongs would at the very least offer more to us them most of our squad.

Brighton: Dunk, Lallana, Bissouma, Gross, Maupay, Lamptey, Sanchez. 

Watford: King, Sarr, Dennis, Sissoko.

 

And thats without me knowing that much about there sqauds. 

[clintdempsey]

2 minutes ago, hakka said:

I am more and more feeling Howe is right man at wrong time for us. I'll judge him once he's brought his players in from January and had a go, but for what he's improved in possession and getting up the pitch, it's not getting enough goals and it's leaking them at the other end something chronic. We should have been looking for a point today, really sit deep, frustrate City with defending in numbers and counter attack with ASM and Wilson. These defenders are so bad they need a lot of help when against real quality. Did Howe really think we could attack and get goals without that back 4 falling apart over 90 mins?

 

Some games you have to accept it's better to not lose and setup that way over trusting a terrible back 4 to suddenly start getting clean sheets. I feel I'm being harsh, but expected a bit better from Howe. Still support him and knew this run of hard games would be tough.

 

Murphy, Clark, Lascelles and Ritchie is a shocking back 4.

I think that he’s trying to get the team playing against the ‘big boys’ to make it a bit easier when we get to the more favorable fixtures. Would’ve been even harder for us if we’d just sat back and kick it long for the last few games. We really do need to get some form of attacking structure in place for the games in January/February and these last few games have been free hits in that regard. Hopefully it’ll work. 

[The Bonk]

4 minutes ago, hakka said:

I am more and more feeling Howe is right man at wrong time for us. I'll judge him once he's brought his players in from January and had a go, but for what he's improved in possession and getting up the pitch, it's not getting enough goals and it's leaking them at the other end something chronic. We should have been looking for a point today, really sit deep, frustrate City with defending in numbers and counter attack with ASM and Wilson. These defenders are so bad they need a lot of help when against real quality. Did Howe really think we could attack and get goals without that back 4 falling apart over 90 mins?

 

Some games you have to accept it's better to not lose and setup that way over trusting a terrible back 4 to suddenly start getting clean sheets. I feel I'm being harsh, but expected a bit better from Howe. Still support him and knew this run of hard games would be tough.

 

Murphy, Clark, Lascelles and Ritchie is a shocking back 4.

 

Schar and Fernandez aren't that much better, tbh. We need an overhaul and I fully embrace Howe as the man to lead the change. One (league )way or another we'll get better under Howe.

[Fantail Breeze]

4 minutes ago, hakka said:

I am more and more feeling Howe is right man at wrong time for us. I'll judge him once he's brought his players in from January and had a go, but for what he's improved in possession and getting up the pitch, it's not getting enough goals and it's leaking them at the other end something chronic. We should have been looking for a point today, really sit deep, frustrate City with defending in numbers and counter attack with ASM and Wilson. These defenders are so bad they need a lot of help when against real quality. Did Howe really think we could attack and get goals without that back 4 falling apart over 90 mins?

 

Some games you have to accept it's better to not lose and setup that way over trusting a terrible back 4 to suddenly start getting clean sheets. I feel I'm being harsh, but expected a bit better from Howe. Still support him and knew this run of hard games would be tough.

 

Murphy, Clark, Lascelles and Ritchie is a shocking back 4.

 

I’m not convinced we have improved as an attacking threat. We look very disjointed and playing as individuals.

 

So many opportunities to pass or shoot are not taken up and we end up losing the ball, or playing it too late, or playing it into open space in the wrong direction.

 

The last three games, other than a one-off thump from Jonjo, we haven’t looked like scoring at all.

 

Even taking into account the Brentford game, six goals in seven games isn’t going to get many points.

[The Bonk]

2 minutes ago, Foluwashola said:

There's absolutely nee point in judging him until he's at least had a window under his belt. Not going to learn much from watching this gaggle of doylums attempt to play one of the best teams in the world.

 

Let him get a proper defence in and try to compete against our fellow wastes of space.

 

 

 

 

Exactly.