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10 minutes ago, Ikon said:


Add a right sided attacking player and I agree. The four most important positions that should be top top priority to strengthen first in the summer. 

CB, DCM, ARW, CF and we’d be laughing. 

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I’d be happy with Bruno’s pal from Brazil/Lyon and go without a DCM and right winger mind, but I think we need a ball playing quick and powerful CB badly to allow us to play further up the pitch which in turn will allow us to have more possession in midfield in the opposition half. That and a top CF is the main priority for me. 

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6 hours ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

I do have some concerns that if we go on an aggressive recruitment drive this summer we are going to have an influx of high quality players and a manager tasked with keeping it all together whilst acheiving on field success. Not sure Howe would be brilliant at that given his relatively low profile. Worse problems to have I know.

 

Howe deserves the opportunity to take the club forward and I'd be disappointed if he wasn't given it. 

 

I think that's exactly what defines a good manager though, knowing how to build a team rather than just a collection of fancy players. Howe seems to have had a big input into recruitment in January, and far from going for the flash names, he brought in good characters. Even with his biggest signing, he waited quite a while before starting him.

 

Eddie seems to be a very shrewd operator, I am quite confident he will be quite vocal about who we bring in, and I'm equally confident he'll know how to handle them once they are here. Top eight is my realistic aim for next season, but deep down I'd be a bit disappointed if we didn't make top six.

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6 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I think that's exactly what defines a good manager though, knowing how to build a team rather than just a collection of fancy players. Howe seems to have had a big input into recruitment in January, and far from going for the flash names, he brought in good characters. Even with his biggest signing, he waited quite a while before starting him.

 

Eddie seems to be a very shrewd operator, I am quite confident he will be quite vocal about who we bring in, and I'm equally confident he'll know how to handle them once they are here. Top eight is my realistic aim for next season, but deep down I'd be a bit disappointed if we didn't make top six.

I’m told he had a big say on Trippier, Burn, Targett and Wood and obviously didn’t say no to Bruno and that we have two deals already in place for players that I assume we were linked with in January or close to buying. I’d say one is Lingard and the other is that French youngster, but that’s just a guess. We also seem to have an agreed purchase for Targett. I think once the window opens we will see movement within two weeks at least, with those players whoever they are signed up.

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26 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

I would rather Howe than Pochettetino, I know that's not really what this thread was about, but I have more confidence in Howe taking us forward. 

 

Same, and I'm a big Pochettino fan. Howe is still developing into a manager, he's getting better with every year of experience under his belt.

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15 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I’m told he had a big say on Trippier, Burn, Targett and Wood and obviously didn’t say no to Bruno and that we have two deals already in place for players that I assume we were linked with in January or close to buying. I’d say one is Lingard and the other is that French youngster, but that’s just a guess. We also seem to have an agreed purchase for Targett. I think once the window opens we will see movement within two weeks at least, with those players whoever they are signed up.

 

 

I think if you look at the big picture, it's pretty clear that Dan Ashworth and Howe are lined up to be the future of Newcastle for some time. It's not a short term project, the idea wil be to build incrementally, and build something pretty huge. Those two already know each other pretty well and there is mutual respect, so I would imagine they will be on the same page when it comes to recruitment.

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Howe is the next super manager, the next Alex Ferguson. Pretty bloody obvious to me:  he’s pulled a mediocre team (excl Bruno) from relegation favourites to top 10 potential in the blink of an eye. 
100% the long term man. 

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

It's not impossible at all. I keep saying it, City went 10, 5, 3. They'll expect us to be within 2 maybe 3 positions of that.

 

I don't think they'll be livid if we finished 5/6. As i've said before that still means we've jumped "the rest" and broken up the top 6. But we'll want to push on.

 

Content with 8th, not happy. 8th means a Wolves, Leicester, Villa, West Ham finished above us. West Ham went from 11, 13, 10, 16th to 6th. Wolves went from Championship to 7th back to back.

 

I have no doubt the owners will back the manager. It will be up to recruitment to succeed.

 

I'll add Southampton's old bloke to Poch as an example of levelling up at the right time. FWIW I hope they give Howe the season if they genuinely believe in him.

 

Our owners are having to deal within FFP, whereas City - through the loophole of "sponsorship" money (a loophole now closed) - did not. Ask anyone in the know at the club, and they will tell you that our situation, no matter PIF's wealth, is incomparable to that of City. 

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29 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I’m told he had a big say on Trippier, Burn, Targett and Wood and obviously didn’t say no to Bruno and that we have two deals already in place for players that I assume we were linked with in January or close to buying. I’d say one is Lingard and the other is that French youngster, but that’s just a guess. We also seem to have an agreed purchase for Targett. I think once the window opens we will see movement within two weeks at least, with those players whoever they are signed up.

 

As well as buying Targett, an RCB, a striker and possibly a  right winger is the business the club expect to do this summer.

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4 minutes ago, magorific said:

 

Our owners are having to deal within FFP, whereas City - through the loophole of "sponsorship" money (a loophole now closed) - did not. Ask anyone in the know at the club, and they will tell you that our situation, no matter PIF's wealth, is incomparable to that of City. 

I think this makes climbing the table more time critical - not less. That sponsorship loophole is now based on "fair market rate". The better we perform on the pitch, the better sponsorship deals can be justified.

 

They'll want European football within 2 seasons imo. That's a jump that can justify considerably bigger sponsorships.

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Would not change Howe for anyone. Players progressing, the club moving forward, the feel of a united team. 

 

I often wonder what might have been had Mike Ashley not screwed over Kevin Keegan over. Remembering the few months of joy when he returned was absolutely fantastic. This feeling is back now, and i really hope we stick with Eddie for a long time.

 

Great job turning the whole mess from the last era into this, and starting to really move this club forward in such a short time. Well fucking done Eddie!

 

 

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To be honest, he's been so good, especially since the turn of the year, I'm actually pretty quite surprised there's been no 'Peddie Howe' talk from those down the road, in line with their 'Rafa Beneathus' and 'Beheadie' [emoji38].

 

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Aye I’d not swap Howe for anyone right now other than Pep or Klopp and even then, I don’t think those two would have done any better with the players we have right now than Howe. I am desperate for him to develop as a manager along with the team and club all together. I’ve always rated him, but he’s surprised me tactically and defensively, we are very Rafa like as a team right now, but are less rigid going forward. The team sprit is as high as it’s ever been and even those that don’t feature or feature not a lot seem fully integrated into the entire dynamic set by Howe and his staff and that is so hard to do at any level in football. It’s all for one, and one for all. I had us down so many times even after wins, but he’s turned things around in a way I’ve not yet seen from a NUFC Premier League team. 

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10 hours ago, RS said:

Howe is the next super manager, the next Alex Ferguson. Pretty bloody obvious to me:  he’s pulled a mediocre team (excl Bruno) from relegation favourites to top 10 potential in the blink of an eye. 
100% the long term man. 


:thup:

 

Plus what he did at Bournemouth shows this is not a fluke

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The only threat is the England job. Otherwise I don't see him going anywhere at all, especially if the owners prove to him this summer that their ambitious vision isn't just hot air. Imagine being the manager to take Newcastle back to the very top, and seeing what you can do if properly backed in the transfer market. It's much more exciting than being airdropped into an established "big" side.

 

Our owners seem to like him and trust him too, he's a modern young manager, highly professional and speaks well and looks good for the organisation on the whole. They could not have been more lucky to end up with Eddie Howe.

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I can't see him taking the England job honestly, not in the near future. He looks like he loves football too much to only be managing a few games every couple of months.

 

 

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We’ve always been a club that looks out for its own.

 

By basically rescuing us from certain relegation and then some, Eddie is one of us now.

 

so unless things go really bad again, which they won’t, he at least gets to see out his contract here, and I’d be unhappy with the owners for anything less

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26 minutes ago, James said:

We’ve always been a club that looks out for its own.

 

By basically rescuing us from certain relegation and then some, Eddie is one of us now.

 

so unless things go really bad again, which they won’t, he at least gets to see out his contract here, and I’d be unhappy with the owners for anything less

 

I don't think we did right by Sir Bob, and that's always rankled. Took us from the bottom of the league to three top-five finishes, and then got the boot.

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3 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think we did right by Sir Bob, and that's always rankled. Took us from the bottom of the league to three top-five finishes, and then got the boot.

It was a disgrace the way FS handled it all he should have been moved upstairs, not sacked! I’ll never forget SSN live reporting him leaving the training ground and he was visibly shaken and welling up, but they kept prodding him and he as always had the grace to thank them and that he wished his club all the best going forward.

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1 hour ago, James said:

We’ve always been a club that looks out for its own.

 

By basically rescuing us from certain relegation and then some, Eddie is one of us now.

 

so unless things go really bad again, which they won’t, he at least gets to see out his contract here, and I’d be unhappy with the owners for anything less

 

Absolutely this.

 

 

 

Talk about replacing Wor Ed already...

 

Get fucked. :lol:

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Yeah that’s crap like but he shouldn’t be untouchable. What happens if we spend £200m the next two years and are only in that 8th-10th bracket at the end of it? I don’t think that’ll be the case like, I think he’ll take us within the top 6 by the end of his time here.

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1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Yeah that’s crap like but he shouldn’t be untouchable. What happens if we spend £200m the next two years and are only in that 8th-10th bracket at the end of it? I don’t think that’ll be the case like, I think he’ll take us within the top 6 by the end of his time here.

Tbf £100m per year isn’t enough to break into the top 6 imo. 

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29 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Tbf £100m per year isn’t enough to break into the top 6 imo. 

Again, the gap from where we are now to the top 6 is not that huge. Good coaching alone can bridge some of the gaps as we are showing (on form alone). The Premier League is quite average between most teams, WHU are the best of the rest one season, Leciester the next, or a Villa or an NUFC. Spurs, Man Utd and Arsenal are all interchangeable and usually get there in the end because the rest don’t have the squad or lose/draw too many games against each other. It’s about consistency of form. Invest in quality to give us a real spine to the team and we can be next season’s WHU or even Arsenal who are nothing special. Even Chelsea are beatable. The top two are on another level and in another league, but the rest? 

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