midds Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 To absolutely no-one's surprise we've been knocked out by a far superior team. They scored their winner in the 13th minute and added the cushion about 15 minutes later, knocked it into neutral and glided home in relative comfort. We were outclassed and out of our depth from the first whistle to the last. If we have a poor run from now until May then I honestly think he's going to be in a bit of bother. Personally I think he's got the rest of this season and at least 20 games next season but I'm not running the club. The club is being run by rich, successful and expectant cunts who don't really do failure or excuses, they're ruthless. We knew this when they took us over and so far it's been mostly roses but a drab end to the season and I think he'll be in a bit of bother whether I agree or not. 4th to (maybe) 10th will not go down well despite all of the legitimate context surrounding it He absolutely deserves another season but I'm getting concerned he'll not get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just played the best team in football with many key players missing, away from home where they rarely ever lose a match, confidence going in somewhat low, we were dominated in possession but reduced them to two lucky goals, and on another day Isak could score the opportunity's he was presented with? This was always going to be an uphill struggle, even if we could have put our absolute best out this evening, we would have still had a huge challenge. Man City are on a different level to us, our fans need to know our lane and stop being such deluded fuckwits, this is off the back of the Eddie Howe must go shit gathering pace on Twitter. They do my head in, a loss here or there and they're waiting to pounce like sad little twats, starting to wish we never qualified for the champions league, it's given so many a false sense of entitlement, lack of humility. Such a shame those same fans no doubt showering Howe with admiration, love, and praise after the Leicester game last season, all forget so quickly, even when the poor fella has his hands tied with a season of relentless problems. Please don't be one of them, resist these fucking vampires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: Well if we're hoping to improve that should not be the case. He has been shown to be significantly worse than Pope, and even himself from when he was No.1. Can't remember if it was Neville or Carragher that highlighted it but his save % is about 10 % lower than Pope and is one of the worst in the league And he's been playing behind a severely depleted team. Do you really think we'd improve for playing Karius or Gillespie instead ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think with no doubt he deserves to see out this season but based on how the team has been playing since december questions need to be asked if he is the man to take us to the level our owners want us to be in or should we look to get a more proven top level manager in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Away Toon said: Shearer seems convinced he will be here next season...... As he should, even though I think he hasnt done a good job lately. Its 3 bad months compared to 2 excellent years. If the performances doesnt improve substantially from now to the first 5-7 games next season then i think its time to say goodbye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, midds said: He absolutely deserves another season but I'm getting concerned he'll not get it If we tank the end of the season he does deserve massive scrutiny. Anything lower than 13th and it’ll be the biggest drop off since Pardew went 5th->16th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, midds said: He absolutely deserves another season but I'm getting concerned he'll not get it I'm pretty sure that if the current form continues he won't. I'm not saying he deserves to go yet, but to me he's making fundamental mistakes with his selections and in the last two games I've seen players jogging, which is unacceptable. We have still got a decent run in, so the opportunity is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Unless we have a terrible end to the season and finish way down the bottom half, he will be here next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Given Karius or Gillespie an attempt? That first goal from Chelsea was a complete disgrace and he should have been ashamed to have not got it since it was actually getting closer to him Karius and Gillespie are both awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, midds said: To absolutely no-one's surprise we've been knocked out by a far superior team. They scored their winner in the 13th minute and added the cushion about 15 minutes later, knocked it into neutral and glided home in relative comfort. We were outclassed and out of our depth from the first whistle to the last. If we have a poor run from now until May then I honestly think he's going to be in a bit of bother. Personally I think he's got the rest of this season and at least 20 games next season but I'm not running the club. The club is being run by rich, successful and expectant cunts who don't really do failure or excuses, they're ruthless. We knew this when they took us over and so far it's been mostly roses but a drab end to the season and I think he'll be in a bit of bother whether I agree or not. 4th to (maybe) 10th will not go down well despite all of the legitimate context surrounding it He absolutely deserves another season but I'm getting concerned he'll not get it No one is really surprised. And that's the point, there was no surprise and nothing even looking like a surprise in any way shape or form. As completely expected we rolled over and let Man City tickle our bellies. Nothing in that performance suggested we weren't prepared for and were willing to accept defeat before the match even Started. Eddie isn't going to win anything for us. He doesn't have it in him, as much as I'd like him to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Shearer sounded positively spokespersonlike when he said he'd be here next season. Also looked like he then remembered he also had to say that we had to be able to buy players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 minutes ago, madras said: And he's been playing behind a severely depleted team. Do you really think we'd improve for playing Karius or Gillespie instead ? Couldn't have been worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I am absolutely in the Eddie Howe camp anyone who isn't is a wally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, gjohnson said: Couldn't have been worse I think that's the worst trope in football. Absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Heron said: I am absolutely in the Eddie Howe camp anyone who isn't is a wally. My flag bearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Heron said: I am absolutely in the Eddie Howe camp anyone who isn't is a wally. Unless something goes disastrously wrong between now and the end of May he deserves the chance to remodel the squad a bit in the summer and see how we go without all the injuries and ridiculous CL fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Keegans Export said: I think that's the worst trope in football. Absolute nonsense. So are you confident that Karius or Gillespie couldn't have got to a shot that was actually heading towards them and not have missed it? I'd be embarrassed if my 8yr old missed one like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think the owners won't be in any hurry to move Eddie on, they'll see this season for what it was and the reasons for it. The only way I see Eddie moving out in the close season is an Adkins/Pochettino scenario (and even that is unlikely). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, gjohnson said: So are you confident that Karius or Gillespie couldn't have got to a shot that was actually heading towards them and not have missed it? I'd be embarrassed if my 8yr old missed one like that You can't look at one isolated incident and determine that; 1. Keeper B would have saved it therefore would have performed better over 90mins and conceded less goals 2. The manager is at fault for picking Keeper A over Keeper B, despite Keeper B showing absolutely nothing throughout their entire career to suggest they are a better player than Keeper A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 23 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: No criticism tonight but it looks like the best we can achieve this season is 7th in the league with underwhelming cup exits - albeit with mitigating circumstances and very tough draws. It’s been a really disappointing campaign and he’s going to have be very ruthless in the summer with certain players like Burn, Almiron, Longstaff etc being sold or marginalised and a larger focus on being solid / patient / creative in possession versus turning it over. He has my full support but the summer is the biggest test of him yet. Last season, injuries and a harsh exit of the CL have earned him that. Not to mention the run of cup draws. I do worry if we sell either Isak or Bruno, though. Either could fund 3/4 huge improvements to the starting XI, but I'm not overly enthused about Howe spending it wisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Just played the best team in football with many key players missing, away from home where they rarely ever lose a match, confidence going in somewhat low, we were dominated in possession but reduced them to two lucky goals, and on another day Isak could score the opportunity's he was presented with? This was always going to be an uphill struggle, even if we could have put our absolute best out this evening, we would have still had a huge challenge. Man City are on a different level to us, our fans need to know our lane and stop being such deluded fuckwits, this is off the back of the Eddie Howe must go shit gathering pace on Twitter. They do my head in, a loss here or there and they're waiting to pounce like sad little twats, starting to wish we never qualified for the champions league, it's given so many a false sense of entitlement, lack of humility. Such a shame those same fans no doubt showering Howe with admiration, love, and praise after the Leicester game last season, all forget so quickly, even when the poor fella has his hands tied with a season of relentless problems. Please don't be one of them, resist these fucking vampires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, nemtizz said: Last season, injuries and a harsh exit of the CL have earned him that. Not to mention the run of cup draws. I do worry if we sell either Isak or Bruno, though. Either could fund 3/4 huge improvements to the starting XI, but I'm not overly enthused about Howe spending it wisely. It's not Eddie that spends it. He has a say, as does all the management group, the owners, Nickson, next sporting director etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Stats don't lie. Unbeaten at home in 34 games. We should've won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, madras said: I think the owners won't be in any hurry to move Eddie on, they'll see this season for what it was and the reasons for it. The only way I see Eddie moving out in the close season is an Adkins/Pochettino scenario (and even that is unlikely). Maybe the UK ownership might not me, but I'm not convinced that is the case with PIF. Hopefully we will have a decent end of the season, so we don't have to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Been on this forum since 2007 and it's never been this bad. We were all more united in our hate for Pardew than we are now Not even sure what it means anymore to be a "supporter" Guess it means we celebrate when we win and throw eggs when we dont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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