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That was another woeful performance, same as most of the dross we've served up this season

 

A point flatters us immensely, we were dog shit. Not a single shot on target against a bottom 3 side, holy smokes, that's an awful stat to reflect on

 

Two windows without any progress in enhancing the squad + Howe's management going miles backwards = bad times on Tyneside

 

Mid table mediocrity is our identity 

 

 

 

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Be interesting to see how ruthless PIF are here. They were ruthless in the summer with Staveley and Merhdad, clearly holding them accountable for the PSR mess in the summer. 
 

The other issue is, who do we bring in? I don’t want Potter, for example. 
 

Some big questions. Going to be an interesting couple of weeks, with the games coming thick and fast. Isak being out for a while could be the end of Howe here. 

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If we’ve got no money to spend in January, we may as well let him have this season. Cup quarter final still come.

 

If we have some money to spend, get rid of Howe as I just don’t trust him to spend it wisely.

 

He looked like a beaten man when walking off at the end…

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1 minute ago, mighty__mag said:

I'm not enjoying the way we play anymore, the system was better when we had wingers like Almiron and ASM, this whole Barnes or Gordon headache, likewise Tonali or Longstaff, is just irritating, there's a massive sway from the manager to use Gordon anywhere no matter what, it's what I think anyway, not sure ifv anyone else does? Similar with Bruno he's undrinkable for Howe, I also think making Bruno captain hasn't helped at all, it's totally upset the squad harmony, we were captained better under Trippier. 

 

Feel Eddie has given the newer bunch of players the power over the grafters that saved us from relegation, and contributed hugely to our qualifying for the UCL. 

 

I'm always backing Eddie Howe, I believe in him, but he's a bit stubborn, and he has his favorites.  I'd not really want him out for the sake of it, especially for someone like Jose Mourinho, however if Thomas Frank was able to be convinced to come here, that would be appealing. 


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1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

A point flatters us immensely, we were dog shit. Not a single shot on target against a bottom 3 side, holy smokes, that's an awful stat to reflect on

 

 

Not a single shot at all never mind on target

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I've come to the point where I'm starting to have serious doubts about Eddie, the credit he had in the bank is all but gone, Monday night for me was a watershed moment, yet another pitiful performance, today just cemented it... there has been something not right all season.. questions if we change manager are a) who next? And b) how do the players react?

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Just now, andycap said:

I'd take mourinho like. 

Bit of discipline in the team and a system they can all understand. 

Bit like what rafa done with us. 

 

No. Fucking. Way. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I love him as a character, but he is toxic. Eddie will (and should) get the season. But if we finish below 7th he will be gone then. 

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Just now, andycap said:

I'd take mourinho like. 

Bit of discipline in the team and a system they can all understand. 

Bit like what rafa done with us. 


Absolutely not. 
 

He’s boat has sailed and it would steps back at a crucial period we need to take strides forward getting him. Need a progressive manager, that can get us playing through the lines, get players enjoying football.

 

Think the more the games are a tough drag like today, will get the players looking elsewhere, and Mourinho would be more of that and the toxicity he brings.

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Fucked over by FFP and consequently an imbalanced squad, but it's sadly looking like his time may have to be up after this season. No excuse for being so atrocious with the players we have. Could easily finish 10-13th this season.

 

It's gutting because I really like him as well.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Still think the biggest issue is the stagnation off the pitch and the inability to mix things up/refresh the squad. Given the constraints we really needed to be more ruthless and proactive in the transfer market to build a more balanced squad. Some of the blue chip players we've retained and banked on building our season around (Bruno, Gordon) have been atrocious tbh.

 

I think Howe deserves a fair amount of criticism for the way we're playing but I also honestly don't think changing manager is going to make a huge amount of difference given where the club/squad level is at right now. 

I’m not having that personally. They’re rightly criticised for not strengthening in the summer, but this manager has basically had two new England international full backs (who’ve been a couple of our best players) and Tonali an Italian international starter introduced over the past few months. Two things can be true at the same time. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy said:

Gordon going up top was a crazy decision, for me. Even if Wilson isn't fit, I refuse to accept (from what we've seen) that Osula wouldn't offer enough in that role to help us maintain our balance. 

 

The guy is struggling for form and yet it seems every match he is being moved from one position to the next during the game.

 

The whole thing is a mess.

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3 minutes ago, andycap said:

I'd take mourinho like. 

Bit of discipline in the team and a system they can all understand. 

Bit like what rafa done with us. 

Every bit of good Howe has done here will be undone with him. Hes a divisive figure and yesterday’s man. 

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It's a shame the way it's turning out , I love the bloke and would still give him this season but it feels like we have been so poor for the vast majority of this season and even a lot of last season really . Even the whole PRS we can't spend to improve argument is flawed when we are below the likes of Brighton , Forest and Brentford and look poor in the vast majority of games.

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It's so fucking frustrating at the minute. Two stellar perormances against Arsenal & Forest and we looked back to our best. We could have/should have been 2nd in the table tonight but two utterly dreadful performances and it's midtable mediocrity again. Too many players sinply not performing and he clearly needs to change things, but we know he won't.

Not really sure what the answer is but I think the owners will have started considering his replacements.

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

The guy is struggling for form and yet it seems every match he is being moved from one position to the next during the game.

 

The whole thing is a mess.

 

On top of that Barnes is benched every week. This season really is odd man :lol:

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