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22 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I mean the league season clearly isn't a write-off; there's 28 games still to play. But it's looking and feeling weirdly similar to this time last year, and we don't have the fixture relief or the world class striker to drag us into a season-defining winning run. So it's looking a bit hairy, admittedly.

 

We can obviously still be competitive in the top half but it goes without saying that today has to be the nadir.


It’s probably not in a conventional sense, as 5 wins on bounce and we’d be top 6 probably. But since first minute of the first game, we’ve not hooked up a 90 min game once and we’re over a 1/4 way into the season. We’re not going to suddenly click and will be naive to think it will.

 

We should be going into League Cup SFs, which will be two more games in January, with 2 UCL, FA Cup, all whilst needing to win win win in league to get a move going. Something will have to give, and it will only be natural if we’re still off the pace that effort levels go into cup games instead of league games.

 

We’ll probably see more days like today from Feb-May if we don’t string 3+ wins on a bounce quick. 

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5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Grumbling and complaining about everything post-match in the pub is a tradition which goes back significantly further than the internet - I think much of what is posted on here is very, very mild in comparison to the average post-match pub crack.  

Yeah absolutely. My point was that it has been magnified in all aspects of life from the information era. I’ve seen it in my own behaviors as well.

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3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

We were clearly tired and West Ham have had a big break, it's games like this we need to show some control on the ball but that's never happening with the line-up we put out. 

 

 

Tired?

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Just now, nufc123 said:

No one. People discuss the manager after a shite game, thats all.

I was referring to wyn Davies, who literally called for his replacement right after the Cup win. Honestly haven’t seen anyone else since last year. Hence why I contradicted Froggy about him claiming that half the forum have called for Howe’s sacking after the Chelsea game

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41 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Prem season is a write off. Time to rescue it Howe with the cups please. 

Prem season was never written in. We've punched above our permitted weight to qualify for the CL twice, improving on that in PSR times was based on fantasy.

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I’m not sure if we do sit back on purpose, I think it’s a result of us not being able to handle a press, which is due to our lack of technical ability and possibly a lack of emphasis on it in training and in the market. We get the ball, get pressed, try to rush it forward, lose it. The pattern has been there for a long time.

 

 

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1 minute ago, The Butcher said:

As good as he is I do think Woltemade is a poor fit for Howe. We've no fret in behind now.


It is what the wide players should be doing.

 

They need to play narrow off Woltemade filling the space he has created by pulling the centre back out of position, with the fullbacks supporting creating width.

 

Shame we haven’t got a centre midfielder who can run beyond, although Joelinton does make that bending run when he plays wide left.

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3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

I was referring to wyn Davies, who literally called for his replacement right after the Cup win. Honestly haven’t seen anyone else since last year. Hence why I contradicted Froggy about him claiming that half the forum have called for Howe’s sacking after the Chelsea game

 

Wyn Davies is in his 70s man don't waste your energy. He's a regen Crumpy.

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Not Howe out, but after 4 years, we can all 100% see now what are his issues and that’s something you have to take for the trade off.

 

Like when a game is going against him tactically, he’ll make subs that make things worse. Done that a few times now, alongside his insistence on certain players. No different to Pep at Man City when he has massive blind spots like not changing at all when a game is going against him etc. Just need Howe to keep raising the bar for what he does bring to the team in a positive way. 
 

I do fear the outlay on the players this summer won’t help him. Wissa / Ramsey / Elanga are Wilson, Willock, Almiron upgrades. All better, but all don’t help our issues we’ve had for ages. Need the new signings to all have purple spells that those mentioned before had.

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6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

We were clearly tired and West Ham have had a big break, it's games like this we need to show some control on the ball but that's never happening with the line-up we put out. 

 

 

 

This is a problem that I'd like to see Howe solve, we really struggle as soon as we lose our energy and physicality since we have no ability to control a game, especially when we go ahead. 

 

We'll never grow as a club and compete at the highest level consistently if we can't solve the problem of playing multiple fixtures in a week, it isn't sustainable to think we can just qualify for the CL every other season and build like that, while basically throwing the league campaign while we're there. 

 

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1 minute ago, Matt1892 said:


It is what the wide players should be doing.

 

They need to play narrow off Woltemade filling the space he has created by pulling the centre back out of position, with the fullbacks supporting creating width.

 

Shame we haven’t got a centre midfielder who can run beyond, although Joelinton does make that bending run when he plays wide left.

Exactly, and that's why Tino and Hall are such a big miss

 

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Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

We are still dogshit when we have to rely on possession to break a team down. Hoping to see some major strides in that direction this season. So far it’s been grim.

All of the attacking players bought this season (apart from Woltemade) are ‘running onto the ball’ players. We’ve been desperate for someone to keep possession but bought Ramsey and Elanga for circa £100m.

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Just now, Andy said:

 

This is a problem that I'd like to see Howe solve, we really struggle as soon as we lose our energy and physicality since we have no ability to control a game, especially when we go ahead. 

 

We'll never grow as a club and compete at the highest level consistently if we can't solve the problem of playing multiple fixtures in a week, it isn't sustainable to think we can just qualify for the CL every other season and build like that, while basically throwing the league campaign while we're there. 

 

This. We have decent squad depth now. This is not 23-24.

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We had the entire second half to try and get something back and created absolutely jack shit. That header for Osula, a half chance, was the output of 45+6 minutes. And yet I knew as we went into the second half that I'd look at the clock and it would be 68-72 minutes all of a sudden and we'd have frittered away time doing nothing. It just felt so predictable.

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The tired excuse needs to do one. Of the front 6, only 2 started midweek (with Wolte playing 70), and the spurs game was done after 70 mins and was walking football bar some sloppy possession by us.

 

Today was literally definition of fresh legs in outwide and in midfield, should’ve been a proper intensity but was anything but. 
 

Joelinton / Bruno / Gordon IMO all shouldn’t started Wednesday. That was effort levels that requires dropping.

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3 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

This is a problem that I'd like to see Howe solve, we really struggle as soon as we lose our energy and physicality since we have no ability to control a game, especially when we go ahead. 

 

We'll never grow as a club and compete at the highest level consistently if we can't solve the problem of playing multiple fixtures in a week, it isn't sustainable to think we can just qualify for the CL every other season and build like that, while basically throwing the league campaign while we're there. 

 

Today we didn’t even try to be physical and press. 

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