Eddie Howe

[Holmesy]

3 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Part of me is really happy, personality wise I think he's fantastic. I love how he conducts himself, how he behaves, how he speaks. As a representative of my club, he's incredible and I desperately want him to succeed. 

 

But another part of me is incredibly frustrated by him. Is he just fundamentally unable to play anything other than a high pressing kick and run game where fitness and running about are more important than talent? 

 

Are we destined to lose players like Woltemade because he's not fast enough, or Hall because he's less tall than Dan Burn? I think I'll lose my shit if Hall leaves so Burn can amble around at left back for another season. 

 

Yes running around lots and being tall are positive qualities, but we cannot continue to venerate these qualities to the complete detriment of absolutely anything else. On which notes Howe's recent comments about playing style and individuals he trusts worry me greatly. 

From a succession planning POV, we need to sign players with the attributes Eddie favours married with the capability to adapt to more progressive style should the next manager choose to play that way. It might be years off but then, this is football so it might not. If Eddie doesn't want to utilise that side of their game, at least it's there to be unlocked in future. 

[Collage]

28 minutes ago, Elephant said:

We are going to need 8-9 new signings next summer with him.

 

GK, RB, CB, DM, CM, LW, RW, STx2

 

Ramsdale, Schär, Trippier, Tonali, Willock, Gordon, Woltemade, Wissa, Elanga gone.

 

Nearly impossible, but have to get it 100% right. Otherwise it’s going to be this all over again and then Hall, Bruno, Livramento and Thiaw all could leave (if not already).

That will never happen. Eddie said in the press conference pre-Brighton that he doesn't want too many players coming in, not as many as last summer.

[barton]

get in. howay Eddie 

[PauloGeordio]

[Chris_R]

16 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

You've got to believe that those concerns were raised on Wed/Thur and that the answers he gave were deemed sufficient. Then we win at the weekend, safety all but guaranteed so they're happy to confirm (albeit not directly) that he's staying.

 

I can't imagine that his response to questions about how to put right what happened this season was "I'm going to keep picking the same players and playing the same way" 

 

It's fair enough doing that now if he feels that's his best chance of getting results this month but, like the shift in personnel and style we saw between 21/22 and 22/23, I hope and assume that we'll see some changes in how we set up next season.

 

I mean your point would be stronger if we hadn't won at the weekend with Burn at left back and Woltemade completely unused. 

 

Don't misunderstand me, I'm a big fan of Howe and have no wish for him to leave. I just have concerns. 

[Yorkie]

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Glad it’s sorted before the window opens. No excuses for the window or next season.

 

When does a reason become an excuse? There are lots of external factors out of his control. Potentially internal factors too if he's not the one pulling the strings in terms of recruitment.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

When does a reason become an excuse? There are lots of external factors out of his control. Potentially internal factors too if he's not the one pulling the strings in terms of recruitment.

I am not sure what you mean? I mean there are no excuses next season for anyone at the club (including Howe). If we have a season like this again next year, then he will lose his job. I am not sure there is a scenario where being as bad as we have in the league this year would be acceptable? 

[Chicken Dancer]

I wish we wouldn’t call him ‘Eddie’ constantly mind. Makes me feel like a scouser. 

[mouldy_uk]

1 minute ago, Chicken Dancer said:

I wish we wouldn’t call him ‘Eddie’ constantly mind. Makes me feel like a scouser. 

Should be addressed as Sir Edward

of Howe 

[Keegans Export]

14 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

I mean your point would be stronger if we hadn't won at the weekend with Burn at left back and Woltemade completely unused. 

 

Don't misunderstand me, I'm a big fan of Howe and have no wish for him to leave. I just have concerns. 

I thought my last paragraph kind of covered that 

[Mountain]

[J7]

33 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

At least this news shuts up the whiney little bastards who want him gone for a bit 😂

 

 

 

Can’t see anything changing tbh. Those with doubts he can change and turn things around will still have them. Even a ‘good’ season next season can only be judged when we see if he can cope with Europe the season after.

 

I’ll be honest, this feels like the Robson/Souness summer to me. Huge opportunity missed. Hopefully we won’t be regretting it for the next decade or so. 

[Menace]

Fair enough, strong call from the club - lets hope summer goes well and we can rebuild. This season was a failure.

[nemtizz]

Rewarded for keeping us up. Fair play. 

 

 

Edited May 3 by nemtizz

[Steve Charlton]

Heil Wor Eddie,Heil.Heil

 

Bollocks to mourinho

[Yorkie]

10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I am not sure what you mean? I mean there are no excuses next season for anyone at the club (including Howe). If we have a season like this again next year, then he will lose his job. I am not sure there is a scenario where being as bad as we have in the league this year would be acceptable? 

 

I wouldn't dispute that.

 

I just find the "no excuses!" thing reductive and needlessly loaded. This season's poor league campaign is a result of a combination of factors - which he, at one point or another, has each referred to in pressers (schedule, Isak saga, his own performance). I wouldn't define a single one of them as an excuse. "Science against me" was an excuse. "The fans were cheering us on too much so we conceded" was an excuse. "Notting Hill was on."

 

What happens if, despite best laid plans, the rug gets pulled from us again this summer? That's entirely within the scope of possibility given our place in the financial food chain. Even if we're as prepared as can be.

 

I just think going in with "no excuses" is a hasty and unforgiving stance, which assumes maximum weight on the 'his own performance' aspect, and less weight on all the other things. Who knows what's going to happen between now and a year's time?

[SUPERTOON]

7 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I wouldn't dispute that.

 

I just find the "no excuses!" thing reductive and needlessly loaded. This season's poor league campaign is a result of a combination of factors - which he, at one point or another, has each referred to in pressers (schedule, Isak saga, his own performance). I wouldn't define a single one of them as an excuse. "Science against me" was an excuse. "The fans were cheering us on too much so we conceded" was an excuse. "Notting Hill was on."

 

What happens if, despite best laid plans, the rug gets pulled from us again this summer? That's entirely within the scope of possibility given our place in the financial food chain. Even if we're as prepared as can be.

 

I just think going in with "no excuses" is a hasty and unforgiving stance, which assumes maximum weight on the 'his own performance' aspect, and less weight on all the other things. Who knows what's going to happen between now and a year's time?

Wasn’t meant to be that deep tbh, I just don’t think there should be any reason/excuse for us to be as poor as we have been this season.

[Coffee_Johnny]

40 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said:

Should be addressed as Sir Edward

of Howe 

King Edward of the bay. Has a nice ring to it. 

[Pilko]

The comments he made about not wanting as many in/out as last summer frightens me a lot.

 

We need at least two keepers alone and he wants 5 or less signings total? Can help but think we're fucked if that happens.

 

 

Edited May 3 by Pilko

[Kilcline]

1 hour ago, Holmesy said:

From a succession planning POV, we need to sign players with the attributes Eddie favours married with the capability to adapt to more progressive style should the next manager choose to play that way. It might be years off but then, this is football so it might not. If Eddie doesn't want to utilise that side of their game, at least it's there to be unlocked in future. 

I'd quite like us to set our stall out in terms of what our playing identity/philosophy is as a club so we can all judge us based on that.

 

If that's "Howe-ball," then fine, but we should be setting the bigger picture agenda ourselves for better for worse so we're never in thrall to the tactical beliefs of one person, or at least the beliefs of that one person should mirror those of the club, which is why they get the job in the first place.

[Danh1]

2 minutes ago, Pilko said:

The comments he made about not wanting as many in/out as last summer frightens me a lot.

 

We need at least two keepers alone and he wants 5 or less signings total? Can help but think we're fucked if that happens.

 

 

 

When you consider that we’ll possibly lose Livramento, Gordon and Tonali - there’s 3 big signings needed there. 
 

Then there’s the areas we need to address - right wing, striker, central midfielder, back up LB/RB, probably another centre half as well if Schar goes. 
 

Edit: and the keepers as you mention. 

 

 

Edited May 3 by Danh1

[Kid Icarus]

Is it really that out of the realms of possibility that some of the players we got last summer hugely improve next season? I totally understand not seeing it happening, but surely at some point not seeing it in players and then them turning it around happens enough times to think, hold on, maybe chucking them out and getting new players isn't the answer?

 

Obviously there are exceptions like, mainly with our 'keepers.

 

 

Edited May 3 by Kid Icarus

[Stuy_O]

I was swaying on the side of a change but if a decision has been made then fair enough, he does deserve a shot at another season. 
 

We can’t keep playing the way we are though and it’s a real worry for me. 
 

Surely he sees we need real impactful changes - both in personnel and tactics. 

[Wilson]

Not many in does sound a bit worrying tbf, hoping it's just his usual diplomacy IE he's not going to start talking about upgrades/players leaving/replacements. 

 

Will have to wait and see I guess so no point worrying too much about the comment at the minute.  There needs to be quite a bit of business done...and early (although I won't hold my breath on getting stuff done early). 

[Dr Venkman]

1 hour ago, Elephant said:

We are going to need 8-9 new signings next summer with him.

 

GK, RB, CB, DM, CM, LW, RW, STx2

 

Ramsdale, Schär, Trippier, Tonali, Willock, Gordon, Woltemade, Wissa, Elanga gone.

 

Nearly impossible, but have to get it 100% right. Otherwise it’s going to be this all over again and then Hall, Bruno, Livramento and Thiaw all could leave (if not already).

Why do some people persist with this? We’re not signing 9 new players man