Eddie Howe

[duo]

42 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Reckon he'll see this season that a DM will be a priority next summer.

 

Jan we'll get one I recon - desperately need one

[Hudson]

15 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

We've been a genuinely excellent team for a year, bar some dips, with some fairly journeymen players in the squad.

 

Howe is very good tactically and our underlying numbers over the year reflect that. Every team has weaknesses, football is a short blanket game as Rafa said. You move someone somewhere else and a new problem appears. It's the same for 99% of teams and the good coaches focus on net benefit over time.

 

There are loads of articles about how he's changed us from 21/22, including a switch midway through last season. Bruno says he's a genius, Wilshere said he was an unbelievable coach, Joe Cole talked about how good he is tactically at creating overloads. There'll be countless examples of this.

 

Proud as fuck for him tonight. He knows we can do better and we will improve. We look a team who need a run of easier games to find attacking rhythm and some upping of this side of our game on the training pitch.

Great post. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

I reckon he'll be really glad that's out the way as well. The buildup to this has felt Cup Final-like. It's class for us as fans but he's had so many questions about it for weeks and I thought his responses in yesterday's presser were telling when it came to trying to play things down.

[RobsonsWonderland]

I will still say we are a year, two years ahead of where we planned to be.

 

The squad, the infrastructure, the European know how is not there yet and this was Howes first ever game in Europe.

 

Not in the Conference or Europa league but in the Champions League playing at the San Siro.

 

This will be a massive learning curve for both the manager and the club and like it or not we are still nowhere near the level we need or want to be.

 

But let's just enjoy the journey and support the lads.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by RobsonsWonderland

[The Prophet]

39 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

We've been a genuinely excellent team for a year, bar some dips, with some fairly journeymen players in the squad.

 

Howe is very good tactically and our underlying numbers over the year reflect that. Every team has weaknesses, football is a short blanket game as Rafa said. You move someone somewhere else and a new problem appears. It's the same for 99% of teams and the good coaches focus on net benefit over time.

 

There are loads of articles about how he's changed us from 21/22, including a switch midway through last season. Bruno says he's a genius, Wilshere said he was an unbelievable coach, Joe Cole talked about how good he is tactically at creating overloads. There'll be countless examples of this.

 

Proud as fuck for him tonight. He knows we can do better and we will improve. We look a team who need a run of easier games to find attacking rhythm and some upping of this side of our game on the training pitch.

 

Cracking post.

[KaKa]

17 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

I will still say we are a year, two years ahead of where we planned to be.

 

The squad, the infrastructure, the European know how is not there yet and this was Howes first ever game in Europe.

 

Not in the Conference or Europa league but in the Champion League playing at the San Siro.

 

This will be a massive learning curve for both the manager and the club and like it or not we are still nowhere near the level we need or want to be.

 

But let's just enjoy the journey and support the lads.

 

This is ultimately where a lot of fans frustrations are coming from.

 

The media screamed we were now the richest club in the world and were going to be the next Man City or Chelsea, and start spending big to get to the top and the Saudi's only expect the best ... blah blah blah. The fans ate it up and keep waiting for this to happen because that's what they want most. Ignoring FFP rules and piling up 115 infractions of our own.

 

But listen to the people in charge of running things day to day and they continue to maintain it will be a rationale slower build that is sustainable that is in line with FFP restrictions. But the fans have convinced themselves it is all a ruse! And so they will continue to stew in frustration.

 

We have brought in younger players with talent to mould and develop and allow to grow together and a young manager with ability and talent, with lots of room to grow still, which he will, because he constantly looks to do so. However this is not what most fans want and so most signings are rubbished and every sub par performance is 'unacceptable'.

 

They'd better get used to it though, because this is the project that is in place, so get with the process and what they are building towards or just support some other club that is at the top already and throwing money around and piling up FFP infractions.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by KaKa

[Groundhog63]

Some balloons on here getting Eddie Howe mixed up with Ben White

[Begbie]

Howe needs to bring the jou back in the team again, and play with more freedome, atm we look shit scared of doing mistakes. We look afraid to try passes and more often than not we play the safe pass instead of threading it through. 
 

Hope we get it sorted out soon.

[Yorkie]

1 hour ago, Pata said:

I don’t really see what’s wrong with pointing out that the performance was really poor and we were extremely lucky to walk away with a point. Bookies had it basically as a coinflip pre-game and it was nothing like that. Nerves must have played a part and I’m hopeful that was our worst performance of the group stage but there’s a lot of work for Eddie to do.

 

The fact that that's weapons-grade horseshit is the main issue.

 

It wasn't even close to 'really poor'. Disjointed and ineffective going forward I'll give you but there was plenty to like about the performance. We were incredibly dogged, kept our emotions and mentality in check, strong at the back (with some good fortune) and had spells where we were in total control of the match. We also had a knack of winning possession back quickly after losing it and were very effective at buying time, either through winning fouls or just keeping possession - not a bad tactic at the San Siro. That's before we get onto the various brilliant individual performances. 

 

There are some tactical issues atm, I would totally agree with that. But criticism to that degree is just plain wrong. We wouldn't have got out of there with a point if we were really poor/awful/whatever.

[Elliottman]

Amazed Howe didn’t want to lynch Edwards for his question in the presser the absolute bell end 

[54]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

Amazed Howe didn’t want to lynch Edwards for his question in the presser the absolute bell end 

What was the question?

[Chris_R]

1 hour ago, Charlies said:

Exactly this

 

 

 

I love Eddie but we got battered 0-0 tonight.

 

You can point to the result all you like, which was indeed a good result, but we play 10 more games like that and we lose 8 or 9 of them. It's not sustainable, and we need more fret going forwards. We had one shot of note and it was in the 94th minute. They tested out GK repeatedly. That we came away with a point today is lucky, not good work by the players or manager.

[Wilson]

Fuck my life. 

 

Been on here 5 minutes and wish some of our fans would fuck off and support Liverpool. 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Wilson

[TRon]

Feels like the parts are greater than the sum at the moment. I've felt it all season, and becomes more apparent when we play teams who play at a higher level and the best players can make the pitch seem much bigger.

 

But Eddie is still new to this level, and he's an intelligent bloke. He's still learning and getting better.

[Elliottman]

3 minutes ago, 54 said:

What was the question?

Rocks up 5 minutes late because he was stuck in a lift and blurts out 

 

‘you’re going to have to keep the ball better than that if you want to progress won’t you?’

 

This is after Howe had spent the whole time praising the team for their hard word, the conditions, the atmosphere, the inexperience, the clean sheet. Absolute bellend. 

[gbandit]

I’d be extremely worried if that’s what every game looked like for us and I know we got battered off Brighton and Man City outplayed us but we made Liverpool shit themselves for over half the game and they’re a very good side. We beat Villa 5-1 and played very well second half. We’ve drawn a game away in the champions league against the incumbent semi-finalists. We had our backs to the wall for large sections of the match and created fuck all. It’s all going to change against Sheffield United. Even Brentford are a very difficult side to play against, very organised, extremely good defensively with lots of physical beasts in their defence and midfield. We’ll be playing good stuff very soon 

[Jagten]

You can be happy with the result without reverse-engineering the performance, or giving anyone grief for discussing our issues in the game. It wasn't particularly close tonight and we should have been comfortably beaten. 

[Whitley mag]

Simple fact is apart from Isak we haven’t been able to sign a really intelligent world class attacker.

 

We’ve signed potential in Gordon but we got rid of the one other player we had who is unpredictable and can unlock a team.

 

We look one paced and predictable in midfield and we need Willocks pace and goal scoring from midfield desperately.

 

We’ve had a tough start and we won’t have a problem retaining possession, but creating is different and I think it’ll be a major issue throughout the season with the personnel we currently have.

[Wilson]

2 minutes ago, Jagten said:

should have been comfortably beaten. 

 

Tell us why

[Infatuation Junkie]

Well I loved it. Over the moon with a point away.

 

let’s judge after a home game with the crowd behind us.

 

that intimidation is not something most of this squad have ever been part of. Even I was nervous man. Imagine longstaff and burn.

 

5 or 50 shots. We held them. That’s what counts right now.

 

Yeah. A few players looked off the mark. But they put everything into that defending man. Credit where credit is due.

[Bellis80]

1 hour ago, Bellis80 said:

Not a knock on his managerial abilities but a Premier League manager never bothering to go to a Champions League game and calling the San Siro “just a pitch” when there is so little european experience in the squad makes me think he’s a weirdo.

I know I might seem the weirdo here but i’m on the train back to Verona and i’m going again ?

 

90% of the pitches in the top standard of football across europe are the same size but you’ll still hear players talk about somewhere being a big pitch. No one says St James’ is a big pitch but Wembley or Old Trafford are despite being exactly the same. Players talk about angles being different, harder to judge length of long passes etc because of how close or far the stands are away from the pitch. The opposition can make it big as well, but every pitch is different despite being the same.

 

And the San Siro is a Holy Shit ground when you walk into it even with no one it it, presume Dortmund will be the same. So why you wouldn’t go and train there or at least have a look when you have the opportunity doesn’t make sense to me. Different story for teams used to going to these type of places.

[Pata]

48 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

The fact that that's weapons-grade horseshit is the main issue.

 

I just can't agree here. Bookies had this as a really close match and we were absolutely crushed in xG (2.98-0.36), scoring attempts (25-6), shots on target (8-1) etc. I'm sure Howe (and fans) are happy with the point in the end but if we play like that for the rest of the group stages we have no chance of advancing. Milan are a traditional huge club but the fact we were favourites (or even close to it) at San Siro shows that they are quite far from the powerhouse days of 90s and 00s. Yet we made them look amazing in this game.

 

There are still positives to take from this match though besides the away point. Firstly the second half was a lot better and we seemed to be better prepared for it defensively. They had a ton of shots but we kept them away decently from really good chances and thought some individual performances were good. We were also alright in keeping possession but Milan don't really press tbf. Just a really messy performance overall and I'm certain Howe won't be happy with that when the cameras aren't rolling. I really hope the nerviness is gone now for the rest of the group matches.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Pata

[Heron]

Got caught out first half tactically and second half seemingly addressed it with us looking a lot more comfortable. Seriously, folk need to remember where we (and he) has come from and take faith in where we are and he is and apply fisth into the learning process. We are stronger together. No doubts. Fuck the world. Eddie Howes Black and White Army.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Heron

[Jagten]

24 minutes ago, Wilson said:

 

Tell us why

They created a lot more good chances. We created none. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

10 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

I know I might seem the weirdo here but i’m on the train back to Verona and i’m going again ?

 

90% of the pitches in the top standard of football across europe are the same size but you’ll still hear players talk about somewhere being a big pitch. No one says St James’ is a big pitch but Wembley or Old Trafford are despite being exactly the same. Players talk about angles being different, harder to judge length of long passes etc because of how close or far the stands are away from the pitch. The opposition can make it big as well, but every pitch is different despite being the same.

 

And the San Siro is a Holy Shit ground when you walk into it even with no one it it, presume Dortmund will be the same. So why you wouldn’t go and train there or at least have a look when you have the opportunity doesn’t make sense to me. Different story for teams used to going to these type of places.

I'd seriously considering letting it go at this point. Plenty of other more sensible things regarding the state of our team to focus on.